Will COVID 19 Bankrupt The University System?

[Wherryj]

Audit the system, and cut the fat. Some ridiculous salaries at our Universities.

Cutting the fat means cutting out the worthless degrees. You know, anything ending in "Studies".

[Wherryj]

It is more serious than many here believe...

Hands on physics, chemistry and biochemistry lab experience is essential in gaining skills in analysis techniques with the current technologies...

Medical students need hands on practicums... They are only allowed distance practicums under this shutdown..

Another year or two of purely online courses leaving the universities as ghost towns will be a great disservice to those in the sciences.

This played out even in the past with open universities. When I was going to college I heard from several recruiters for employers that San Jose State U undergrads were hired preferentially over Stanford undergrads for biotech, etc.

That was because the Stanford undergrads aren't allowed to "play with" the expensive equipment because that was saved for "grad students" or "research". SJSU students had little equipment, so they had already learned how to run gel electrophoresis using Tupperware and common household items.

Hands on is often the only way to really learn.

[Yugo]

you miss spelled indoctrination factories. God I hope it does. :fingers crossed:

[user120312]

Practically everyone in the political and corporate machine is inured to the indoctrination and propaganda machine. No way will they let it fail.

[FNH5-7]

In recent times my favorite was how they added an 'A' for Art to the STEM acronym and turned it into S.T.E.A.M. Art has absolutely not a****ing thing in common with the rest. And no I did not even major in STEM.

Do you mean "bankrupt" as in actual bankruptcy, or as in destroy?

Because bankruptcy would be no big deal for the university system. They get protection from creditors, they pay whom they can what they can, and life goes on as normal. Wouldn't cause the correction that many of us believe is long overdue.

I apologize for not using the exact terminology. I don't expect it to go belly up and completely cease to exist. I would like for it to get a huge correction, like many things have over the years. The university system has been immune because of all the money and loans injected into it.

I hope so. It's turned higher education into a farce, a paid right of passage into a higher-paying job (not really after getting ***-ended with loans) just a barely step up from service industry work. I did vocational training before I was persuaded to go on the "transfer-crazy" tract. I can tell you that 10% of what I took from the programs was common sense that would come with time and experience, while the remaining 90% was mumbo jumbo bs so they could sell more text books.

The real reason why the US is really screwed in the job market is because a large portion of manufacturing went abroad and ALL the jobs associated with it. We need to fight through this with apprenticeships and paid on the job training and get Americans back to work. Yes, get them masks. Yet if you're making $4200 a month sitting in your butt for 6 months, would you feel inclined to do so? Some would and will.

And really, if corporate America is screwing us, time to stop giving them the edge and contracts. Help small business evolve into medium sized or larger enterprises.

If companies didn't have the easy way out where they could just hire people from abroad who are already trained, they would have to put more effort into training Americans who are willing and able to learn.

[bigmike82]

Today I learned that people consider lab time useful.

It never did anything for me.

[Creeping Incrementalism]

Today I learned that people consider lab time useful.

It never did anything for me.

You are weird. Most kids in school consider cutting up cow eyeballs and burning stuff, as fun.

I once had a like 8 AM Saturday lab in college. Even my lab partner who was hungover every time, still showed up and seemed to me semi-active and alert.