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Hydroxychloroquine Showed No Benefit in Latest Study

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  • #16
    SanDiego619
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2013
    • 12026

    There are lots of other studies showing treatment is highly effective

    Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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    • #17
      SAN compnerd
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • May 2009
      • 4725

      A bogus study without proper scientific rigor used by the media to dunk on Trump while thousands die. Disgusting. Dr. Raoult, who just completed another 1000+ person study, takes this BS apart.

      Moreover, incomprehensibly, the “untreated” group actually received azithromycin in 30% of cases,
      without this group being analyzed in any distinct way. Azithromycin is also a proposed treatment for
      COVID (Gautret, 2020) with in vitro efficacy (Andreani, 2020), and to mix it with patients who are
      supposedly untreated is something that is closer to scientific fraud than reasonable analysis.
      Altogether these 3 voluntary biases are all pushing to the idea of dangerosity of hydroxychloroquine
      safest drug as reported on nearly 1 million people (Lane, 2020).
      All in all, this is a work that shows that, in this period, it is possible to propose things that do not
      stand up to any methodological analysis to try to demonstrate that one is right.
      https://www.mediterranee-infection.c...WITH-YANIS.pdf
      "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

      Originally posted by SAN compnerd
      When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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      • #18
        SAN compnerd
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2009
        • 4725

        The most recent study by Dr. Raoult shows pretty solid efficacy. It also notes no evidence of cardiac issues as some other bogus reports have tried to insinuate.


        Good clinical outcome and virological cure were obtained in 973 patients within
        10 days (91.7%). Prolonged viral carriage was observed in 47 patients (4.4%) and was
        associated to a higher viral load at diagnosis (p < 10-2
        ) but viral culture was negative at day
        10. All but one were PCR-cleared at day 15. A poor clinical outcome was observed for 46
        patients (4.3%) and 8 died (0.75%) (74-95 years old). Mortality was lower than in patients
        treated with other regimens in all Marseille public hospitals (p< 10-2
        ). Five patients are still
        hospitalized (98.7% of patients cured so far). Poor clinical outcome was associated to older
        age (OR 1.11), initial higher severity (OR 10.05) and low HCQ serum concentration. Poor
        clinical and virological outcomes were associated to the use of selective beta-blocking agents
        and angiotensin II receptor blockers (P<0.05). No cardiac toxicity was observed.
        CONCLUSION: Early HCQ+AZ combination is a safe and efficient treatment for COVID19

        "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

        Originally posted by SAN compnerd
        When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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        • #19
          Funbaby
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 1879

          Pro tip: The zinc article is a review; no actual science. Just some bozos putting everything they can find on zinc into article for a crappy journal. You need to go to the cited articles to find the science.

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          • #20
            zhyla
            Banned
            • Aug 2009
            • 2017

            Originally posted by Funbaby
            Pro tip: The zinc article is a review; no actual science. Just some bozos putting everything they can find on zinc into article for a crappy journal. You need to go to the cited articles to find the science.
            I don't think people are really looking for science.

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            • #21
              harbormaster
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2017
              • 5960

              It works.

              It doesn't work.

              Does it not bother anyone that its hardly relevant rather it works or not; all that maters to certain people is that Trump claimed it might be a solution so its got to fail? Likewise its got to work because Trump gave us hope that it might?

              How about we let the scientist figure it out and we police them a little bit and make sure they check their agenda's at the door.
              1. Compared to what?
              2. At what cost?
              3. What hard evidence do you have?

              T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.

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              • #22
                SAN compnerd
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2009
                • 4725

                Originally posted by harbormaster
                It works.

                It doesn't work.

                Does it not bother anyone that its hardly relevant rather it works or not; all that maters to certain people is that Trump claimed it might be a solution so its got to fail? Likewise its got to work because Trump gave us hope that it might?

                How about we let the scientist figure it out and we police them a little bit and make sure they check their agenda's at the door.
                There's a growing mountain of solid evidence of effectiveness. There's also an effort to create false data to indicate it's not.

                TDS/Politics are literally killing people right now.

                Read my post above on Dr. Raoult's refutation of the 'study' from the OP. Then read the new study he just completed with over a thousand patients where 91% saw viral load drop dramatically with his treatment. It works, there is no doubt that it works.
                "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

                Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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