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  • #16
    five.five-six
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2006
    • 34805

    Originally posted by ACfixer
    Yeah how about that?

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    • #17
      stonefly-2
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 4993



      Unlike Wuhan China and yeah that's a good thing but why?
      What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

      Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

      https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


      I was born under a wandrin star.

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      • #18
        stonefly-2
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 4993


        Read his post again.
        What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

        Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

        https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


        I was born under a wandrin star.

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        • #19
          ACfixer
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2012
          • 6053

          Originally posted by stonefly-2
          Unlike Wuhan China and yeah that's a good thing but why?
          Probably because the spread in Wuhan was much more centralized and they live about 40 people to a square foot. I think any number we got from China is suspect at best.
          Buy made in USA whenever possible.

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          • #20
            boris badinov
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 614

            Originally posted by stonefly-2
            Unlike Wuhan China and yeah that's a good thing but why?
            Given what we know about the virus the obvious answer:


            It was likely here a only few weeks earlier than first believed and NOT in October, or November, or even December.

            These new deaths are only 2-3 weeks earlier than previous-- which still puts the time of infection in 2020.
            "Just the facts, ma'am."

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            • #21
              ACfixer
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2012
              • 6053

              Originally posted by boris badinov
              Given what we know about the virus the obvious answer:


              It was likely here a only few weeks earlier than first believed and NOT in October, or November, or even December.

              These new deaths are only 2-3 weeks earlier than previous-- which still puts the time of infection in 2020.
              That's not the obvious answer Boris. If we had a wildly contagious virus in China in December and free travel and LOTS of it between China and LAX/SFO/SEA how can you even think for a second that virus wasn't here days after the first outbreak in China?

              Some magic wall preventing it then? Do you understand how many flights there are daily to China from the west coast?
              Buy made in USA whenever possible.

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              • #22
                five.five-six
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2006
                • 34805

                Originally posted by ACfixer
                Probably because the spread in Wuhan was much more centralized and they live about 40 people to a square foot. I think any number we got from China is suspect at best.

                Or because the were literally welding doors shut with people in their homes and 30 days later when they opened the doors they were all dead from ChinaVirus


                Seriously though. No social distancing, no test kits, no trillions in pork, no everybody lose their jobs, no handouts, no gloves, no masks, and no piles of bodies.

                What gives?

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                • #23
                  Flyron
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 440

                  Originally posted by SanDiego619
                  I and most people I know, almost everyone I talk to, describes having symptoms very much like the described symptoms of Wuhan virus in January or February. I am pretty sure I had it. Almost all my friends and their families went through a similar thing. Everyone thought the flu season was strange this year, or extra bad, but now I highly suspect it was not the flu at all.

                  When they have an antibody test available for the general public I will probably take one out of curiosity. I do think the virus has already been here for months and infected a good portion of Americans, many of whom had no symptoms or mild symptoms, or more severe flu-like symptoms. So far, in the few antibody studies that have been done, evidence is showing the infection rate to be MUCH higher than estimated, and mortality rate to be MUCH lower than estimated.

                  We both had the dry coughs, lite fever, headaches and no energy for about a week in mid January.

                  Never felt that bad before, even with the seasonal Flu?

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                  • #24
                    five.five-six
                    CGN Contributor
                    • May 2006
                    • 34805

                    Originally posted by ACfixer
                    That's not the obvious answer Boris. If we had a wildly contagious virus in China in December and free travel and LOTS of it between China and LAX/SFO/SEA how can you even think for a second that virus wasn't here days after the first outbreak in China?

                    Some magic wall preventing it then? Do you understand how many flights there are daily to China from the west coast?

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                    • #25
                      boris badinov
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 614

                      Originally posted by ACfixer
                      That's not the obvious answer Boris. If we had a wildly contagious virus in China in December and free travel and LOTS of it between China and LAX/SFO/SEA how can you even think for a second that virus wasn't here days after the first outbreak in China?

                      Some magic wall preventing it then? Do you understand how many flights there are daily to China from the west coast?
                      You're literally making my point for me.



                      We know how the virus ravaged or is still hammering healthcare facilities in China, Italy, Spain France, NYC, NJ, Louisiana etc.

                      So the absence of any similar on-the-brink scenarios in October, November, December, or January indicates that the virus wasn't in the US until January.


                      These new deaths are only 2-3 weeks earlier than the previously thought, which still puts them well into February.

                      I'll pull out my tinfoil hat when they start identifying US Covid deaths in October and November. Until then, the virus still got the US in January 2020.
                      "Just the facts, ma'am."

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                      • #26
                        five.five-six
                        CGN Contributor
                        • May 2006
                        • 34805

                        Originally posted by boris badinov
                        You're literally making my point for me.



                        We know how the virus ravaged or is still hammering healthcare facilities in China, Italy, Spain France, NYC, NJ, Louisiana etc.

                        So the absence of any similar on-the-brink scenarios in October, November, December, or January indicates that the virus wasn't in the US until January.


                        These new deaths are only 2-3 weeks earlier than the previously thought, which still puts them well into February.

                        I'll pull out my tinfoil hat when they start identifying US Covid deaths in October and November. Until then, the virus still got the US in January 2020.

                        Tertiary!

                        Nobody takes you seriously. I am at a loss as to how you even take yourself seriously.


                        It’s like when you spent 2 days trying to convince everybody that 9,600 > 10,000.

                        But yea, ChinaVirus is super duper contagious and deadly n stuff except for 3 weeks in February when it was only the flu and only in California but it’s super deadly and stuff all the other times and everywhere else n stuff.

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                        • #27
                          boris badinov
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 614

                          Thank you for continuing to demonstrate that the "G" in your G.E.D. doesn't stand for Genius.

                          Apparently exponents were part of the mathematics criteria needed for you to qualify for yours
                          "Just the facts, ma'am."

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                          • #28
                            five.five-six
                            CGN Contributor
                            • May 2006
                            • 34805

                            Originally posted by boris badinov
                            We know how the virus ravaged or is still hammering healthcare facilities in China, Italy, Spain France, NYC, NJ, Louisiana etc.

                            Yes, yes we do

                            The 500-bed US Navy hospital ship Comfort is leaving NYC after treating just 179 patients in 3 weeks

                            https://www.businessinsider.com/usns...e-weeks-2020-4

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                            • #29
                              boris badinov
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 614

                              Originally posted by five.five-six
                              Yes, yes we do
                              It's NYC's fault if the fed was too slow to respond with military medical aid. Those military hospital ships would've been helpful 6-8 weeks ago.

                              Three weeks ago was, welp, too little too late. SOP for the fed response at this point.
                              "Just the facts, ma'am."

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                              • #30
                                Steve1968LS2
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 9267

                                What did most of the dead in NY have in common?

                                A new study by a medical journal revealed that most of the people in New York City who were hospitalized due to coronavirus had one or more underlying health issues. 
                                Originally posted by tony270
                                It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
                                Member: Patron member NRA, lifetime member SAF, CRPA

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