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  • ACfixer
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2012
    • 6053

    Notice how the peacefully armed protests are in 2A friendly states?

    Notice how the peacefully armed protests are in 2A friendly states? See how the government is willing to loosen it's grip first in places like TN, GA, and TX? See why in WY, SD, and UT there are less restrictions? The government respects and even fears the armed citizen.

    Let's take CA, let's say Gavin decides to shut it down until 2021 sometime. Who's going to protest and with what leverage? You cannot have an open carry protest as a show of force in CA without a very real fear of arrest and having your weapon confiscated. You cannot carry a visible weapon in public in CA, virtually anywhere. How convenient is that for the state? The chances of an armed protest by a regulated militia in the state of CA is almost zero because all they have to do is arrest you on any number of weapons charges and tie up your life and your weapons in court for the foreseeable future.

    In CA you have no 2A, so you have no 1A.

    Now let's take Tennessee or Utah. The government there has virtually no power to stop a group of 200 armed citizens from openly protesting with their loaded weapons displayed in public. Like right in the city park. What is the government's recourse if they don't like it, order to disperse? And what if they don't? They aren't breaking any laws, they are exercising constitutional rights. Are you going to risk a shooting war with these people, order the cops to shoot their dad and their neighbor? of course not.

    States know if you push hard enough it comes to this, you're already seeing it. The leftists and the weak minded on the right call them morons and virus spreaders, I call them patriots. The states that have the strongest 2A rights are pretty much the same ones with the least restrictions or the earliest lift of the lockdowns. This is no coincidence.

    If anything good comes from all this, I hope it opens some eyes.
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    newbutold
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2017
    • 1952

    I don't see armed protesters as a positive for gun owners.
    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Robert J. Hanlon

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    The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy. Donald J. Trump 1/7/21

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    • #3
      ACfixer
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2012
      • 6053

      Originally posted by newbutold
      I don't see armed protesters as a positive for gun owners.
      Well that wasn't the point of my post, my point I think clearly illustrated that I feel the government respects the armed citizen more than the unarmed subject. I see it as a positive for the preservation of our constitutional rights, we can see things differently. The rights we have (or had) were won with guns.
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      • #4
        newbutold
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2017
        • 1952

        Well, it is worth a look:
        Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Robert J. Hanlon

        No more dems, rinos, commies, , pinkos, crooks, pedos, frauds, idiots, lunatics, wanna-be dictators, traitors, old fools, or kleptocratic thieves for President from any party.

        The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy. Donald J. Trump 1/7/21

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        • #5
          CAL.BAR
          CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
          • Nov 2007
          • 5632

          Originally posted by newbutold
          I don't see armed protesters as a positive for gun owners.
          Exactly. There is often a huge gap between "can" and "should".

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          • #6
            ACfixer
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2012
            • 6053

            Originally posted by newbutold
            When you show me any evidence that the protest led to even one infection I'll look deeper. And arming themselves certainly had no effect.

            Originally posted by CAL.BAR
            Exactly. There is often a huge gap between "can" and "should".
            I'll be sure to consult you as to what I "should" do. Sometimes the opportunity is missed and you're left with a "should have." I present the current lack of 2A rights in CA as a shining example.
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            • #7
              sd_shooter
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2008
              • 13549

              Originally posted by newbutold
              I don't see armed protesters as a positive for gun owners.
              An attitude typical of neutered California dwellers. Over there it's justified since a right that is exercised soon is removed. I remember clearly when open carry was a thing, now it's history.

              Originally posted by newbutold
              So a "spike" in a flu-like disease is what we should be concerned about?

              We're facing decades of recovering lost rights, rebuilding the economy and paying back debt.

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              • #8
                firebert
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1349

                Originally posted by newbutold
                I don't see armed protesters as a positive for gun owners.
                Agreed. Suiting up as a mall ninja gear and strapping on what the media dub an "assault rifle" is not going to help our image to the general public. Much less the responsible gun owning public. There's peaceful protest and there's making oneself look like a assclown.
                03FFL - NRA Life Member - GOA Member

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                • #9
                  user120312
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 5849

                  VCDL.org did a good job on Lobby Day.

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                  • #10
                    ACfixer
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 6053

                    Originally posted by firebert
                    Agreed. Suiting up as a mall ninja gear and strapping on what the media dub an "assault rifle" is not going to help our image to the general public. Much less the responsible gun owning public. There's peaceful protest and there's making oneself look like a assclown.
                    Yeah, let's call openly armed citizens assclowns because the media doesn't like it.
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                    • #11
                      The War Wagon
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 10294

                      Originally posted by ACfixer
                      Let's take CA, let's say Gavin decides to shut it down until 2021 sometime. Who's going to protest and with what leverage? You cannot have an open carry protest as a show of force in CA without a very real fear of arrest and having your weapon confiscated.

                      It HELPS, if 30,000 of your ARMED buddies tag along with you. Is Newscum gonna shoot ALL of you?

                      We're marching on Harrisburg in June, if y'all wanna stop by and see how it's done.

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                      • #12
                        LBDamned
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 19040

                        Originally posted by newbutold
                        I don't see armed protesters as a positive for gun owners.
                        You just made ACFixer's point.
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                        • #13
                          oddball
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2956

                          Originally posted by newbutold
                          So you worry about the "positive" image of American gun owners from the British press. Lovely.

                          Originally posted by CAL.BAR
                          Exactly. There is often a huge gap between "can" and "should".
                          And of course whatever you post, the exact opposite is the logical way. As usual.
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                          • #14
                            ACfixer
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 6053

                            Oklahoma joins in. I've been through Oklahoma on the bike many times, probably not my favorite state but God Bless 'em I'll bet everyone there owns a gun and shoots. Virtually no 2A restrictions there.

                            Oklahoma is set to become the latest state to reopen some businesses on Friday amid the coronavirus pandemic after Gov. Kevin Stitt announced that hair salons, spas, nail salons and pet groomers can open their doors.
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                            • #15
                              ACfixer
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 6053

                              And now here we go.... CHP is no longer issuing protest permits on California state grounds.

                              "After protesters at the state’s capitol defied social distancing guidelines Monday, California Highway Patrol said it would no longer issue permits for gatherings on state property, including the Capitol in Sacramento."

                              So, now you are breaking the law to protest on public land in California. What did I say in my first post? No 2A, no 1A.

                              Good lord I am glad I bought in Tennessee.

                              After protesters at the state’s capitol defied social distancing guidelines Monday, California Highway Patrol said it would no longer issue permits for gatherings on state property, including the Capitol in Sacramento. 
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