More proof China engineered the release of CoronaVirus? Hubei ONLY impacted city

[DrjonesUSA]

I read this article linked below and decided to do a little fact checking of my own.

The Coincidental Chinese Virus.



I wanted to see for myself just how badly impacted is China by all this?

Well, according to what seems to be THE most widely relied upon source for tracking CoronaVirus cases, Johns Hopkins cool & fancy map, I pulled the below data.

Lo and behold, Hubei China is literally the ONLY chinese city that's been impacted by CoronaVirus.

Every single other chinese city that even made the list, doesn't break into the 3 digits; they're barely into the 2 digits. As in 22 cases. No, not a typo; Twenty Two.


Look at the numbers yourself.

How is it that China was able to contain the virus *THAT* effectively?

Or are they just not reporting cases AT ALL?

The numbers below - the next city after Hubei with it's 4,636 deaths starts at a mere *22* deaths - aren't indicative of under-reporting; this would indicate a complete and total lack of reporting ANY cases.


Is that the truth, or is the truth that China knew of this virus for months - or years - before its release, if they did in fact engineer the release of COVID, if not outright create the virus itself at their BSL-4 lab.


What do you guys think?

Have I been hitting the HCQ too hard?

Just putting it out there for discussion.....pretty convenient that the originator of this thing has barely been hit at all, outside of one city....

It's almost as if they had advance notice & were able to prepare for it.....

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

4,512 deaths

Hubei China

22 deaths

Henan China

13 deaths

Heilongjiang China

8 deaths

Beijing China

8 deaths

Guangdong China

7 deaths

Shandong China

7 deaths

Shanghai China

6 deaths

Anhui China

6 deaths

Chongqing China

6 deaths

Hainan China

6 deaths

Hebei China

4 deaths

Hong Kong China









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[Sousuke]

Hubei isn't a city.

[Aces and 8s]

How many more nonsense posts you gonna make today, OP? Maybe you should go back into your tin foil covered basement, put your tinfoil night cap on, and crawl back under your tinfoil blanket.

[VictorFranko]

Hubei isn't a city.

Don't confuse Jones with the facts when he's on a roll.

[DrjonesUSA]

How many more nonsense posts you gonna make today, OP? Maybe you should go back into your tin foil covered basement, put your tinfoil night cap on, and crawl back under your tinfoil blanket.

Hubei isn't a city.

None of this changes my point which is that China - compared to the rest of the world - seems to be far less impacted by CoronaVirus than you'd think, given the fact that they originated the virus, have atrocious health & cleanliness standards, and extremely high population density.

If those are all other provinces listed, and not individual cities, well that just makes my case that much stronger; if we're talking they have an entire province with only 22 cases; that doesn't make any sense how they were able to keep the numbers so low.

Or maybe all this is just a case for welding people into their apartments.....

[Sousuke]

None of this changes my point which is that China - compared to the rest of the world - seems to be far less impacted by CoronaVirus than you'd think.
If those are all other provinces listed, that just makes my case that much stronger; if we're talking they have an entire province with only 22 cases; that doesn't make any sense how they were able to keep the numbers so low.

Or maybe all this is just a case for welding people into their apartments.....

Its hard to make any conclusion when its suspected that their death toll might actually be not just in the 1,000s but actually in the 100,000s. City of Wuhan alone had at least 30,000 deaths if not more.

[Sig556swat]

None of this changes my point which is that China - compared to the rest of the world - seems to be far less impacted by CoronaVirus than you'd think, given the fact that they originated the virus, have atrocious health & cleanliness standards, and extremely high population density.

If those are all other provinces listed, and not individual cities, well that just makes my case that much stronger; if we're talking they have an entire province with only 22 cases; that doesn't make any sense how they were able to keep the numbers so low.

Or maybe all this is just a case for welding people into their apartments.....

If you believe any number coming out of China your an i***t

[Dan_Eastvale]

China consistantly and massively under reports deaths from natural and man made disasters. I remember they reported 100+ deaths in a large earthhquake when in fact it was 100,000+
Most Communist regimes are like that
They refuse to acknowledge weakness.
Even in 2020 we cannot believe anything they say.

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[capo]

OP this is how epidemics grow. Hubei is a province roughly the same size as Washington State and Wuhan is the major city in that province where the outbreak first started. Mainland China went into a lockdown the likes of which we haven't ever seen in America to try and prevent the spread of the contagion and, if one believes their reporting, it worked very effectively. Which isn't super hard to believe really, if you literally lock people inside their own residences for a month or more and allow no travel whatsoever inside a country which is a police state there is virtually no way for the disease to continue spreading. Those that have it will either get better or they won't but they can't spread it far afield.

As a result of those heavy handed tactics Hubei has certainly born the brunt of this pandemic on mainland China.

[DrjonesUSA]

Its hard to make any conclusion when its suspected that their death toll might actually be not just in the 1,000s but actually in the 100,000s. City of Wuhan alone had at least 30,000 deaths if not more.

China consistantly and massively under reports deaths from natural and man made disasters. I remember they reported 100+ deaths in a large earthhquake when in fact it was 100,000+
Most Communist regimes are like that
They refuse to acknowledge weakness.
Even in 2020 we cannot believe anything they say.

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And that well could be the case.... I'm not saying that I conclusively believe one thing or another in this case; this thread was posed as an honest question and to spark debate.

It IS very well documented that China has absolutely lied in the past & very recently regarding COVID, so.....

I guess one big incentive for them to under-report numbers (especially drastically) is to make it seem "safe" for the world to do business with them (to the extent possible) and perhaps to make them still seem "strong"; i.e. the exact opposite of the captain of an aircraft carrier telegraphing to the world that he's got crew issues.

[DrjonesUSA]

OP this is how epidemics grow. Hubei is a province roughly the same size as Washington State and Wuhan is the major city in that province where the outbreak first started. Mainland China went into a lockdown the likes of which we haven't ever seen in America to try and prevent the spread of the contagion and, if one believes their reporting, it worked very effectively. Which isn't super hard to believe really, if you literally lock people inside their own residences for a month or more and allow no travel whatsoever inside a country which is a police state there is virtually no way for the disease to continue spreading. Those that have it will either get better or they won't but they can't spread it far afield.

As a result of those heavy handed tactics Hubei has certainly born the brunt of this pandemic on mainland China.

Very true....As I said, I'm not hard bent one way or the other.

Very serious question;

Were they bringing food to these people that they locked away, welded the doors on, or are we supposed to believe the chinese magically existed for a month with little food? (Assuming their plumbing continued functioning to deliver water).....




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[Doheny]

How many more nonsense posts you gonna make today, OP? Maybe you should go back into your tin foil covered basement, put your tinfoil night cap on, and crawl back under your tinfoil blanket.

[capo]

Very true....As I said, I'm not hard bent one way or the other.

Very serious question;

Were they bringing food to these people that they locked away, welded the doors on, or are we supposed to believe the chinese magically existed for a month with little food? (Assuming their plumbing continued functioning to deliver water).....




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I heard they were bringing food etc, I don't see people taking being starved en masse lying down. Tienanman square X 100. Then again I don't really care what China felt was appropriate for their situation, not my circus.

Keep in mind the memory of SARS is still relatively fresh in China, the public would have been mighty concerned about not catching this given how high the mortality rate was with the 2003 epidemic.

[Citadelgrad87]

None of this changes my point which is that China - compared to the rest of the world - seems to be far less impacted by CoronaVirus than you'd think, given the fact that they originated the virus, have atrocious health & cleanliness standards, and extremely high population density.

If those are all other provinces listed, and not individual cities, well that just makes my case that much stronger; if we're talking they have an entire province with only 22 cases; that doesn't make any sense how they were able to keep the numbers so low.

Or maybe all this is just a case for welding people into their apartments.....

My wife has a client who returned from China, and was NOT in Wuhan, in January 2020. He said something bad was happening and that hundreds of thousands of people were sick and dying. He gave her masks ans gloves and told her to prep for SHTF.

She told him she was married to mr. SHTF, but thanked him for the information.

China has not and will never tell the truth about this.

[stonefly-2]

Johns Hopkins relies on the numbers given by China,

the graph is real pretty with the red dots and all but it's been useless all along.

The CCP announced the quarantine 8 hours before they implemented it and would allow people through for a bribe for some time after.

Early on even before the CCP closed off reports coming out of China we heard of outbreaks in Singapore , Hong Kong & Beijing.

I would say the cat is definitely out of the bag,
the question is why are the effects different in one place than the other?

Shelter in place or quarantine have effect but there's more to it that we don't yet understand for sure so now is not the time for any confidence about anything.

I'm still going with it not being a matter of catching a bug but a matter of how many bugs you take on as compared to how healthy and able to fight off infection a given body is.

It explains outbreaks in areas where mostly people in poor health get sick (convalescent hospitals for example), low infection rates in confined situations (cruise ships for example) and how some young healthy people get sick and die in short order.