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  • SAN compnerd
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
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    • May 2009
    • 4725

    Theory: The NYC subway/bus schedule reductions crowded spaces causing CV explosion

    These folks from MIT have done some pretty solid research into why the virus spread so much in NYC and their conclusions are interesting in the sense that the reaction in this case probably made things worse.

    New York City’s multitentacled subway system was a major disseminator – if not the principal
    transmission vehicle – of coronavirus infection during the initial takeoff of the massive epidemic
    that became evident throughout the city during March 2020. The near shutoff of subway ridership
    in Manhattan – down by over 90 percent at the end of March – correlates strongly with the
    substantial increase in the doubling time of new cases in this borough. Maps of subway station
    turnstile entries, superimposed upon zip code-level maps of reported coronavirus incidence, are
    strongly consistent with subway-facilitated disease propagation.
    Local train lines appear to have a
    higher propensity to transmit infection than express lines. Reciprocal seeding of infection appears
    to be the best explanation for the emergence of a single hotspot in Midtown West in Manhattan.
    Bus hubs may have served as secondary transmission routes out to the periphery of the city.
    Edit:
    In other words, if they had not cut the schedules, the abiltiy to social distance would have been better and resulted in less spread, or at least that's the theory.

    It's a PDF doc in the link.
    Last edited by SAN compnerd; 04-19-2020, 2:25 PM. Reason: People not getting the message
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    Citadelgrad87
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    • Mar 2007
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    Of course. Its not like Tokyo or urban China, but if we packed humans in with the density of Manhattan, every person on earth could live in Texas.
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    • #3
      71MUSTY
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      • Mar 2014
      • 7029

      I would not be surprised if mass transit plays a big role dissemination. Most of the areas with massive quick spread have it. Exceptions might be Florida and Louisiana but they had spring break and marti gras. In that case California's dismal mass transit might explain why California's numbers are much lower. We all know California's numbers are not due to stay at home orders.
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      • #4
        ACfixer
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        • Feb 2012
        • 6053

        Originally posted by 71MUSTY
        I would not be surprised if mass transit plays a big role dissemination. Most of the areas with massive quick spread have it. Exceptions might be Florida and Louisiana but they had spring break and marti gras. In that case California's dismal mass transit might explain why California's numbers are much lower. We all know California's numbers are not due to stay at home orders.
        Pretty sure CV19 came through here in December, most didn't get counted and I think that's a part of it. Just a theory of course, but I've seen a few articles on the matter.
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        • #5
          Powder_Keg
          Senior Member
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2013
          • 2203

          NYC is a huge dirty petri dish waiting for the perfect storm to wreck havoc.

          Last edited by Powder_Keg; 04-19-2020, 1:07 PM.

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          • #6
            seal20
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 3081

            Well duh...

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            • #7
              HighWildFree
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 2103

              ^^^ that
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              • #8
                Funbaby
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 1879

                The same will be found in London.

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                • #9
                  BigStiCK
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                  • Aug 2010
                  • 3747

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                  • #10
                    Doheny
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13820

                    Theory: The NYC subway/bus schedule reductions crowded spaces causing CV explosion

                    London had a similar issue (daughter lives there.) They cut the number of trains, which caused the remaining ones to be overcrowded.

                    Not rocket science.


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                    • #11
                      Bralowe
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 734

                      Originally posted by Doheny
                      London had a similar issue (daughter lives there.) They cut the number of trains, which caused the remaining ones to be overcrowded.

                      Not rocket science.


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                      Agree.

                      Why was this done?

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                      • #12
                        NorcalGSG
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1305

                        I agree. I also would like to see public transit mandate face masks and stockpile enough masks in the future for their ridership during flu season. Jeez the potential reduction in transmission in NY just by mandating face masks on the subway is likely astronomical. We as a country can be so stupid sometimes.

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                        • #13
                          Powder_Keg
                          Senior Member
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2203

                          Originally posted by NorcalGSG
                          I agree. I also would like to see public transit mandate face masks and stockpile enough masks in the future for their ridership during flu season. Jeez the potential reduction in transmission in NY just by mandating face masks on the subway is likely astronomical. We as a country can be so stupid sometimes.
                          The root of the problem is China. This isn’t their first pandemic to escape their borders.

                          The standard flu helps builds your immune system. I don’t want big Gov dictating my daily life. If I am at high risk, I should take the nessasary steps to protect myself.
                          Last edited by Powder_Keg; 04-19-2020, 6:56 PM.

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                          • #14
                            timdps
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                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 3468

                            This one had a lot of "help" in its escape plan...

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                            • #15
                              seal20
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 3081

                              Man I'm glad M.I.T. figured this out.... Now. What will NY do about it?

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