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  • covingtonhouse
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 2189

    To the docs here, would hyperbaric therapy....

    Anyone heard of hyperbaric therapy being used for CV therapy? Would this be a thing that could be used for getting oxygen to a bodys' cells? I know it's used for decompression of divers (bends treatment), and for burn victims to speed healing, but aside from that, I have no other knowledge. Who here is qualified to comment on this?
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    NorcalGSG
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    • Nov 2009
    • 1294

    I am not a doctor but I have read of one doctor's account of his positive results using it to help improve the oxygen levels in patients blood, because that is part of the hemoglobin function that is attacked during the cytokine storm this virus causes. He also suggested using the grounded planes we have right now as potential makeshift chambers to increase capacity for treatment.

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      as_rocketman
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      • Jan 2011
      • 3057

      Not a doctor, but I read really fast...

      It's being tried: Hyperbaric Trial

      There is an obvious mechanism for it to help, but you have to keep in mind that changing the pressure of a chemical reaction (i.e., people) can have unexpected and deleterious side effects. Some of that will be mitigated by the fact they're already on high-content or even pure O2, so gas mix is less of a free variable... beyond that I am out of my depth. We'll have to wait and see.

      Such therapy is expensive.
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        covingtonhouse
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        • Mar 2011
        • 2189

        Originally posted by as_rocketman
        Not a doctor, but I read really fast...

        It's being tried: Hyperbaric Trial

        There is an obvious mechanism for it to help, but you have to keep in mind that changing the pressure of a chemical reaction (i.e., people) can have unexpected and deleterious side effects. Some of that will be mitigated by the fact they're already on high-content or even pure O2, so gas mix is less of a free variable... beyond that I am out of my depth. We'll have to wait and see.

        Such therapy is expensive.
        I imagine very expensive, and the equipment involved not as mass produceable as a ventilator. Cost effectiveness would also be a factor, since over-production would lead to equipment sitting around not being used and falling into disrepair, or being sold for pennies on the dollar as surplus. Something for-profit hospitals would balk at.
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          • Apr 2011
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          Originally posted by covingtonhouse
          I imagine very expensive, and the equipment involved not as mass produceable as a ventilator.
          This I knew. I figured if Trump or Pence got it very badly, they'd stick THEM in one, but like Nancy & her ice cream - NONE, for us peasants.
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            DrjonesUSA
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            • Dec 2005
            • 4680

            I read of theories about this weeks ago.
            IIRC, the issue is there are extremely, extremely few hyperbaric chambers in the world.

            I forget the exact numbers, but it's ridiculously low; something like there's only a dozen hyperbaric chambers in the entire USA (roughly).

            Also they aren't supposed to be quick nor easy to fabricate on demand, so.....not promising.

            Can anyone comment on that?




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              • Oct 2005
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              Originally posted by DrjonesUSA
              I read of theories about this weeks ago.
              IIRC, the issue is there are extremely, extremely few hyperbaric chambers in the world.

              I forget the exact numbers, but it's ridiculously low; something like there's only a dozen hyperbaric chambers in the entire USA (roughly).

              Also they aren't supposed to be quick nor easy to fabricate on demand, so.....not promising.

              Can anyone comment on that?

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              I believe the site I found documented fewer than 200 in the US. Portables do exist; I think the Navy may have a few on ships.
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                NorcalGSG
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 1294

                Like I mentioned, the Dr I read about mentioned that all the passenger jets just sitting around right now can easily hit 2x atmosphere in their cabins to act as makeshift chambers. All it has to do is beat the 20% success rate of ventilator's to be better at saving lives bth.

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                  NorcalGSG
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1294

                  Look up this guy on Facebook, it's where I found his explanation on one of the covid groups I follow.
                  Vascular & Endovascular Health Screening & Surgery, Prof. Sherif Sultan Is A World Renowned Surgeon , Book Your 15 Minute Vascuar Health Test Today!

                  It's very interesting, he's been in the Dr. game for awhile and apparently pretty involved in cutting edge stuff. Ymmv.

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                    Medics197
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                    • Dec 2012
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                    • #11
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                      • Feb 2010
                      • 1881

                      Originally posted by covingtonhouse
                      Anyone heard of hyperbaric therapy being used for CV therapy? Would this be a thing that could be used for getting oxygen to a bodys' cells? I know it's used for decompression of divers (bends treatment), and for burn victims to speed healing, but aside from that, I have no other knowledge. Who here is qualified to comment on this?
                      The US military has looked into this back in February. At least our service did because of a report overseas saying it helped numerous cases.

                      Very expensive and no way every hospital would have one.

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