Mercy ship infected.

[L84CABO]

How is a state of the art "flag ship" of sorts not able to remain completely uninfected?

Are you serious? It only takes one doctor, nurse, sailor, or janitor who has it but is asymptomatic to bring it on board. Then it's got a near perfect environment for spreading. There's not magical about a hospital ship.

[Creeping Incrementalism]

Yeah i agree with the difficulty factor but i'm just discouraged i guess at the failure.

Don't be discouraged, just be educated that modern quarantines are mostly pointless in that they don't work very well -- still America survived an arguable worse pandemic in 1918, when modern medicine barely existed and we got through it easily enough that in later years it became known as a "forgotten" epidemic.

Yet the Great Depression surely has not been forgotten, and that is what our current attempts at quarantine are leading to.

[axhoaxho]

It's a hospital. Infections happen. Staff get sick. That's the nature of the beast.

THIS.

[stonefly-2]

Don't be discouraged, just be educated that modern quarantines are mostly pointless in that they don't work very well -- still America survived an arguable worse pandemic in 1918, when modern medicine barely existed and we got through it easily enough that in later years it became known as a "forgotten" epidemic.

Yet the Great Depression surely has not been forgotten, and that is what our current attempts at quarantine are leading to.

Sorry if i don't take the sentiment in the way you intend but i find all of that line of thought i see here as complaining and nothing more.

I'm sure there will be plenty of death to satisfy all before this is done but minimizing it is what's best for the economy in the long run.

[Transient]

Transient-thanks for the link to the video. I enjoyed watching that. I was surprised how current it was.

You're welcome. My wife sent me a text this morning asking me to find it since she was on the ship when it was filmed. When she got home from work we watched it on tv. My wife made sure I knew who "The Silver Fox" was. He's the captain that explains a lot of things about the ship. Apparently he was the one a lot of female personnel were hot for.

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[Transient]

Are you serious? It only takes one doctor, nurse, sailor, or janitor who has it but is asymptomatic to bring it on board. Then it's got a near perfect environment for spreading. There's not magical about a hospital ship.

You forgot about patients.

My uneducated guess would be transmission through touch. Somebody screening patients for COVID-19 may have screened somebody who was positive and rejected their access to Mercy, and then screened somebody who tested negative and allowed them onto the ship. They may have touched something on or near the patient that went with them to the ship. Other personnel on the ship then came into contact with that item and the virus was thus spread. It wouldn't matter if they were using gloves. Gloves aren't the safety measure everybody makes them out to be. They are just another means for teansporting the virus. Even if you do change them frequently, you aren't going to change them after touching 1 object. After all, you still have a job to do. Safety precautions are about risk mitigation, not abstinence.

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[Transient]

Yeah i agree with the difficulty factor but i'm just discouraged i guess at the failure.

That failure could've been on the civilian medical professionals too. Are we going to compile a list of everybody to blame, keep it one sided, or accept that what is is and move on with our lives?

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[SonofWWIIDI]

USNS Mercy was sent to Los Angeles, USNS Comfort was sent to New York.

My bad.

[Transient]

My bad.

Eh,....

Other than one ship being older than the other, and different names, there isn't much difference between the 2. Lose the names and nobody will figure out which is which.

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[Wherryj]

Now is not the best time to be on a ship.



China Gleeful That 4 U.S. Carriers Are Hampered By Covid-19

http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.com/2020/04/china-gleeful-that-4-us-carriers-are.html

I hope that they realize that our nukes are still FULLY operational, and we finally have a CIC who might use them if appropriate.

[sbo80]

did anyone seriously think this was not inevitable? How do you protect against asymptomatic carriers? You can't. The only way to fully prevent it is to literally quarantine it. A true quarantine. Meaning nobody, and nothing, in or out. Even that isn't foolproof.

[Transient]

I hope that they realize that our nukes are still FULLY operational, and we finally have a CIC who might use them if appropriate.

We also have hypersonic missiles in development, and China knows it

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3076250/us-successfully-tests-hypersonic-missile-bid-catch

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[Den60]

It's a hospital. Infections happen. Staff get sick. That's the nature of the beast. This is happening to Comfort, too. The interior of those ships are pretty cool at all times to reduce the chances of bacteria growth, but that won't stop a virus. People with the all matters of illness have been on those ships. With both ships now accepting and treating COVID-19 patients, personnel were bound to get sick. This is non-news. More like background noise when the tv loses reception and you get that fuzzy black and white pixel image.

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Yes, it doesn't matter that it is a ship. People catch all kinds of things in hospitals - even those on land. That's what happens when you collect sick people in a single structure.

And, for the record, my next door neighbors wife is the dietician on the Mercy

[Transient]

Yes, it doesn't matter that it is a ship. People catch all kinds of things in hospitals - even those on land. That's what happens when you collect sick people in a single structure.



And, for the record, my next door neighbors wife is the dietician on the Mercy

Dietitians in the Navy are rare. It's almost like finding a CWO5. (humor implied)

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[DrjonesUSA]

Government: Sends ship into infected zone to help with highly contagious viral outbreak.


*Ship personnel get infected with said highly contagious virus.*


Government:









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