Is fishing allowed during shelter in place?

[LBDamned]

To listen to the latest BS, it's looking like they will peg SIP to antibody testing or vaccine before you will be allowed to move about the cabin. Mandatory adult vaccination anyone? DNA grab by the government anyone? Fishing will be the least of your worries.

Easy guy, let's see IF that happens before you get that tin foil on.

There has been discussion of it.

[newbutold]

Sounds like F&G's usual inept approach to the situation.

[walterSOBCHAK]

Newscum said in his press conference today that the trout opener will in fact be delayed in the Eastern Sierra.

[not-fishing]

Newscum said in his press conference today that the trout opener will in fact be delayed in the Eastern Sierra.

But not in the Western Sierra or whole state????

If only the Eastern there's a little town that has falls I can fish at.

[Deadon]

The call today was so flooded with calls they had to delay the meeting until next week.

[walterSOBCHAK]

The call today was so flooded with calls they had to delay the meeting until next week.

I just read that. The only article I could actually find. https://www.capradio.org/articles/20...rtake-meeting/

[TrappedinCalifornia]

What I appreciated was the fact that people seem to be bridling at a perceived encroachment upon a Constitutional right, even if it is 'only' the California Constitution.

The people shall have the right to fish upon and from the public lands of the State and in the waters thereof, excepting upon lands set aside for fish hatcheries, and no land owned by the State shall ever be sold or transferred without reserving in the people the absolute right to fish thereupon; and no law shall ever be passed making it a crime for the people to enter upon the public lands within this State for the purpose of fishing in any water containing fish that have been planted therein by the State; provided, that the legislature may by statute, provide for the season when and the conditions under which the different species of fish may be taken.

Yes. That does give "the legislature" a certain leeway to 'adjust' the season; which is what they claim to be attempting to shift to the commission. (The usual 'politician shuffle' or a more 'efficient' way to do so on a county-by-county basis or both?) And... I get the sense that the Government came into the meeting with the intent of 'announcing' the workaround, then 'announcing' a delay; perhaps until 1 June, for now, to coincide with Newsom's public 'thinking' on the Stay-at-Home order.

Then, they ran into... the People. As I said, in the one piece I found this morning, even a State Assemblyman said it was 'concerning' that he couldn't get in on the meeting and the 'news' noted that they couldn't either. It kinda leads one to a temptation to interpret that 'Democracy' became inconvenient and they 'shut it down' to have a more 'controlled' (ahem) meeting at another time.

Of course, that could be the result of exactly that seeming to happen in California... a lot.

If various counties want to exclude/limit 'outsiders' during a 'pandemic,' I have some sympathy/empathy and can get behind that... to a point. Ostensibly, what the State now claims is that they were attempting to allow just that by... uh... 'shifting the power' allowed the Legislature in the California Constitution. (Which makes such a 'shift' legally questionable, even if it is, pragmatically, a potentially 'better' option than getting the State Legislature involved.) But, the whole thing seems kinda 'shifty' to me; particularly looking through the documents binder I linked to earlier.

• Some have suggested the possibility of a tax/fee revenue 'shift;' one which coincides with Newsom's announcement of billions for 'aid to illegals' and a contract with a Chinese electric vehicle manufacturer for 'masks.'
• The California Constitution calls for "the legislature" and they want to 'shift' that authority, without a vote, to a bureaucratic ensemble which is answerable to... who?
• Newsom's sunset for the Stay-at-Home order is fungible and has already 'shifted.'
• There hasn't been any talk about how long the delay in the fishing would be; suggesting that it too might 'shift' down the road.
• How does the 'shift' that has been happening over the last few decades among State politicians/environmentalists to reduce/eliminate hunting/fishing from the State entirely factor into this?

This thread - California Fish & Game Commision to hold emergency meeting - in the Hunting & Fishing subforum posits some supportive arguments for why some of this needs to be 'controlled' (at some level) during the 'pandemic,' as well as some more cynical/realistic arguments as to why it is happening and what it might mean vis a vis fees next year. It also notes "who" is doing this; e.g., the commission (political appointees) vs. DFW. (That thread also harbors a post with a link to a short recording of the meeting this morning. )

That's the point for me... for the moment. People are starting to push back against Government slowly expanding their 'control' under guise of this 'pandemic.' That's not to dismiss the potential seriousness of the virus or suggest that the measures being taken may not prove, ultimately and in retrospect, to have been propitious and 'correct.' It is, however, nice to see people 'getting in the face' of Government over the authorities being presumed by Government; particularly when some of those 'presumptions' are or appear to be... dubious.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

I guess i'm not nearly as professional as these guys, since I normally have beer with me instead of powerade, but whats the point of wading 10 feet away from shore and standing on a partly submerged ladder instead of sitting on a chair on the shore?

Does casting the bait an extra 10 feet attract the fish before it sees the neighbors bait?

There's probably a break near there. One you can't get to from shore. As someone that takes fishing pretty seriously, I can tell you every foot more counts.

Helpful for fishing longer without hypothermia and for sight casting at the big Pyramid Lake trout...

https://www.pyramidlakeflyfishing.com/fishing/gear/

There is an entire 'subculture' involved with fishing Pyramid Lake; one that you come to understand over time. You'll note that the line I used in conjunction with that image was... "...and it can get a little crowded in popular places..." It is true. But, it never devolves into "combat fishing." Instead, it is a very polite, courteous, and appropriate way that naturally evolved among the fishermen to, in part, 'manage' the crowds.

The quote provided by Scottie15 mentioned milk crates. In some places, the bottom is kinda soft and a milk crate was used to provide something solid to stand on. However, as also noted, Pyramid Lake is and can be kinda cold to stand in; particularly in the early and late parts of the season. Thus, periodically, one needs to get out of the water. So, some would tie a duck decoy to their milk crate; not only marking the location of the crate, but acting as a 'claim marker' for your 'spot.'

Such markers were and still are respected by everyone. No one casts into "your" zone. No one jumps claims until they are 'abandoned;' by removing the marker, be it duck decoy, ladder, etc. An 'appropriate' spacing between anglers and their claims naturally emerge. Etc. In a sense, it was 'social distancing' before the term became infamous with this latest crisis.

As also noted, Pyramid Lake can get kinda windy/choppy and, when the surf's up and you're standing in the water, chest deep, that can present... issues; particularly when it's cold.





As also suggested, there are drop-offs and flats which don't always make fishing from the bank the best option. (Though, one can kinda 'sneak' in behind some of the ladders, work the water without 'encroaching,' and catch a few fish. A friend of mine and I did that once. After hooking and landing a 20" Lahontan Cutthroat, I heard one of the guys on a ladder turn to his buddy on the neighboring ladder and exclaim: "I told you we were too far out!" ) There are some BIG fish out there and, sometimes, you have to 'get to them' and, yes, a few feet can make a mighty significant difference.

On top of all that... Some of those 'ladders' have become works of art... at least in ways 'meaningful' to a fisherman. It's a whole other aspect of the subculture.

[Hammertime]

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Here's the FGC's official press release on the meeting... California Fish and Game Commission Emergency Meeting Will be Rescheduled for Next Week

You can always make comment for the record at fgc@fgc.ca.gov

Note the part I placed in bold if you'd like to make a... comment.

[user120312]

End run by Trump?

https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/trump-plans-to-open-2-3-million-acres-of-wildlife-refuges-to-hunting-fishing

[LBDamned]

End run by Trump?
https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/trump-...unting-fishing

We will be seeing all kinds of political tug-of-war in the coming months... I strongly suspect it will be outlandish.

[newbutold]

If Inyo/Mono counties don't want visitors, including fishermen......OK

[user120312]

We will be seeing all kinds of political tug-of-war in the coming months... I strongly suspect it will be outlandish.

Yeah, ought to be interesting considering Fed owns some 45%+ of all land in California.