Our own Li Wenliang moment when they fired Capt. Brett E. Crozier

[tamalpias]

Sad day when we fired a Capt. who is sounding the alarm to his superiors and getting shut down for showing compassion for his men and women who served under him. We are no better than the communist china for pulling **** like this.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/navy-leader-calls-fired-carrier-185842824.html

[seal20]

It was stupid and naive. If you don't know why.... Well, here's your sign.

[repomanNWP]

I support Crozier being relieved based on going outside the chain of command, but acting Secretary Modly appears to be a real bozo.

[TurboChrisB]

Sad day when we fired a Capt. who is sounding the alarm to his superiors

Really? To his superiors? You think that's why he got fired, for sounding the alarm to his superiors?

[tamalpias]

Really? To his superiors? You think that's why he got fired, for sounding the alarm to his superiors?

email was to his hire-ups. nowhere did he announced it on a news program or to anybody else unless you have proof.

[TurboChrisB]

email was to his hire-ups. nowhere did he announced it on a news program or to anybody else unless you have proof.

So you think he had 30 "higher Ups"

[tamalpias]

So you think he had 30 "higher Ups"

all the news stated it was leaked, he sure didn't leaked it himself or they would had stated otherwise. as far as how the structure is set up there are probably 30 people who has the authority to make a decision hence he alerted them.

[yoteassasin]

all the news stated it was leaked, he sure didn't leaked it himself or they would had stated otherwise. as far as how the structure is set up there are probably 30 people who has the authority to make a decision hence he alerted them.

Ignorance is bliss ain't it

[SWalt]

OP doesn't seem to understand there are many concerns here. Do you think an aircraft carrier just cruises around like some passenger liner? What operations was it performing or supporting? How critical were those operations to US security? What message does an adversary take away when a ship gets a few sick sailors and it calls it quits?

[TurboChrisB]

and that his immediate superior on the ship was not among them.

all the news stated it was leaked, he sure didn't leaked it himself or they would had stated otherwise. as far as how the structure is set up there are probably 30 people who has the authority to make a decision hence he alerted them.

[2shotjoe]

Didnt follow chain of command with unsecured email and this is classified type of information.

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[tamalpias]

OP doesn't seem to understand there are many concerns here. Do you think an aircraft carrier just cruises around like some passenger liner? What operations was it performing or supporting? How critical were those operations to US security? What message does an adversary take away when a ship gets a few sick sailors and it calls it quits?

and that his immediate superior on the ship was not among them.

we are not at war, we all know to chastise those who are on cruise ships after the pandemic was declared and is not safe to be on a ship. these are our sailors who are in harms way. Don't you think those sailors on his ship haven't already alerted their family members or the media? The Captain I am sure is more aware of the harm that his subordinates are in than either you or I and also the acting SECnav.

Crozier wrote a letter to Navy leaders last week pleading for help in dealing with the situation. Modly on Thursday relieved Crozier of command a day after saying the commander wasn't in the wrong for asking for help from his chain of command.
But Crozier copied too many people on his email, Modly said, a move he told the crew led to his relief.

[NoHeavyHitter]

It would appear that fake news is not wasted on you..

[Citadelgrad87]

Sad day when we fired a Capt. who is sounding the alarm to his superiors and getting shut down for showing compassion for his men and women who served under him. We are no better than the communist china for pulling **** like this.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/navy...185842824.html

Just a wild guess, but you never served, did you. (I did not, but grew up aj AF brat and went to a senior military college)

The chain of command is real. It was fine for him to go to his superiors and try to help his men. Much like Vindeman, though, when he didnt get what he wanted, he was NOT free to try to make a stink or jump to people outside his command to get what he wanted.

He also told our enemies that a major military asset was not functional, and thats unforgivable.

[tamalpias]

Didnt follow chain of command with unsecured email and this is classified type of information.

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unsecured but did it get out because it was hacked? or leaked? leaked meant one of the person whom he trusted with the information leaked it out and he got fired for it? If it was leaked then what difference does it make if it was sent secured or unsecured when the leak was done by somebody who received it? why wasn't the leaker sought out? sounds like a lame excuse to fire somebody.