Hydroxychloraquine MIA??

[Aeneas]

So there was a lot of promising talk about hydroxychloraquine used in conjunction with azithromycin producing amazing results for Covid patients. There was also talk of various antivirals that have really been helping people...

Then all of a sudden nothing...crickets...I don't hear of any efforts to use these meds on people who are clearly in terrible shape, and the outbreak is getting worse, more people are dying, and the response to it is getting more extreme (which seems to be necessary considering what's going on.)

I work in a hospital, and every time I ask someone at work if they've heard anything about hydroxychloraquine, the response is something along the lines of "Oh that drug that's really dangerous?" or "Oh yeah I heard that there are a lot of side effects." Even if there are a lot of side effects (which to my knowledge there are not ), I think that the worst side effect from Covid (death) is probably worse. These are healhcare professionals, but I imagine that their info is coming from the "news" or social media.

So what's going on with this? Doctors have reported amazing results with these therapies, but all is silent when it comes to their use in America. I don't get it.

[sigguy552]

If it's the same antimalarial drug I took, it's definitely got some gnarly side effects. They used to call it "free LSD" due to the crazy dreams but I'd prefer that over death.

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[capo]

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19&term=&cntry=US&state=&city=&dist=&Search=Search

[theLBC]

i think they are trying to dampen the desire for people without any immediate need for it to go out and get some, possibly denying somebody that actually needs it for covid19 or any other prescriptive needs.

actually, i don't know, but that is the only good rationalization i can think of.
if india has stopped exports to protect their own supply, we can't have people hoard it like toilet paper.

[71MUSTY]

i think they are trying to dampen the desire for people without any immediate need for it to go out and get some, possibly denying somebody that actually needs it for covid19 or any other prescriptive needs.

^^^This right here. India is already hording it, I'm sure other countries are. They are trying to keep it from all ending up in the black market before they can secure it for patients that need it. The fact they are quiet is actually good news not bad.

[Aeneas]

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/resul...&Search=Search

Thanks for the link, however those are studies that are in the planning stages. I'm referring to actual use of the meds at this time.

[KatMan53]

When the benefits of the drug were first speculated I remember reading articles, just a few days ago, about doctors (yes) prescribing and hoarding the medications for themselves and their families. Perhaps the hoarding nature of a lot of Americans is causing a news and supply tamp-down so pharmacies, hospitals and clinics can have a supply when needed? Just a thought.

[CPRAFAN]

Doctors and Pols Hoarding . . .

George Carlin, "It's a big club, and you ain't in it". Countries, Dem Governors and Pharmaceutical boards are banning the export or use of the meds; while doctors (and likely high level pols) are hoarding it for themselves - you figure it out. Also, Big Pharma can't make much money off a generic FDA approved antimalarial drug. The one who let the cat out of the bag about Hydroxychloraquine was Trump - now maybe you know another reason the elites hate him so much?

So there was a lot of promising talk about hydroxychloraquine used in conjunction with azithromycin producing amazing results for Covid patients. There was also talk of various antivirals that have really been helping people...

Then all of a sudden nothing...crickets...I don't hear of any efforts to use these meds on people who are clearly in terrible shape, and the outbreak is getting worse, more people are dying, and the response to it is getting more extreme (which seems to be necessary considering what's going on.)

I work in a hospital, and every time I ask someone at work if they've heard anything about hydroxychloraquine, the response is something along the lines of "Oh that drug that's really dangerous?" or "Oh yeah I heard that there are a lot of side effects." Even if there are a lot of side effects (which to my knowledge there are not ), I think that the worst side effect from Covid (death) is probably worse. These are healhcare professionals, but I imagine that their info is coming from the "news" or social media.

So what's going on with this? Doctors have reported amazing results with these therapies, but all is silent when it comes to their use in America. I don't get it.

[Aeneas]

i think they are trying to dampen the desire for people without any immediate need for it to go out and get some, possibly denying somebody that actually needs it for covid19 or any other prescriptive needs.

actually, i don't know, but that is the only good rationalization i can think of.
if india has stopped exports to protect their own supply, we can't have people hoard it like toilet paper.

^^^This right here. India is already hording it, I'm sure other countries are. They are trying to keep it from all ending up in the black market before they can secure it for patients that need it. The fact they are quiet is actually good news not bad.

There is probably some truth to that rationale. I've heard of many countries stopping exports of the drugs. That should teach our politicians and those who empowered then a bit about outsourcing, eh? However we have to have some supply in the US I would think. People that I work with that have seen treatment of Covid describe early intubation and ventilation, but no specific pharmaceutical therapy.

[KatMan53]

... The one who let the cat out of the bag about Hydroxychloraquine was Trump - now maybe you know another reason the elites hate him so much?

Actually, I read articles about the possible use of this malarial treatment several days before Trump spouted it.

[capo]

Thanks for the link, however those are studies that are in the planning stages. I'm referring to actual use of the meds at this time.

I think it's far too early to expect any curated findings from clinical trials on chloroquine and cholorquine derivative efficacy. It's only been a couple of weeks since this disease started appearing in numbers on our shores.

[theLBC]

There is probably some truth to that rationale. I've heard of many countries stopping exports of the drugs. That should teach our politicians and those who empowered then a bit about outsourcing, eh? However we have to have some supply in the US I would think. People that I work with that have seen treatment of Covid describe early intubation and ventilation, but no specific pharmaceutical therapy.

i heard bayer donated 3 million tablets?
i don't believe that might be nearly enough if healthy people are taking it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-bayer/bayer-donates-three-million-malaria-tablets-to-us-for-potential-use-against-coronavirus-idUSKBN21637E

[edgerly779]

we are waiting for shipment to arrive.

[theLBC]

i understand they want clinical trials, which means giving half of the patients a placebo and seeing if they die more often than people with the real drug.

why don't they just start counting the dead and how many of them were taking it?

[CPRAFAN]

Average person doesn't read much . . .

Trump was on national TV discussing the possibility that this malarial treatment would work and thus publicized it to the masses - the average person, I've heard, reads at most one book a year. There are many illiterates out there who don't understand much as is proved by California elections. You and many on this board are above average. Remember, the average IQ is 100 and many are way below that. Watch "Idiocracy" to see where California is going.

Actually, I read articles about the possible use of this malarial treatment several days before Trump spouted it.