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  • #16
    theLBC
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    • Oct 2017
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    why?



    Last edited by theLBC; 03-29-2020, 10:26 AM.

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    • #17
      calif 15-22
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      • Jan 2012
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      Well considering the death toll as off today is 33,166 I think he should give that fancy college degree back!
      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
      It's one thing to question everything . . . It's entirely another thing to reject simple, rational explanations in favor of ever more fantastic and far reaching explanations because you've decided the government cannot be trusted.
      Originally posted by Hoooper
      Anyone who says the American dream requires a specific pay range doesn't understand the meaning of the American dream
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      • #18
        capo
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 4756

        Ah now that I looked at who's in the video it all makes sense. Del Bigtree is a well known antivaxxer and so is the OP.

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        • #19
          norcalplinker1
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          • Apr 2019
          • 171

          Originally posted by Jeepergeo
          The folks that benefit from the hysteria have largely benefitted from the high numbers and panic and now need to walk the numbers back. They will be declaring heroism and stating "we acted out of an abundance of caution" when it reality thirst for power, greed, and control were their underlying goals.

          Be prepared. Gavin Gruesome has seen the CO2 reductions from all the Stay at Home driving reductions. In the next year or two, expect a Stay at Home order to fight global warming with government hacks once again being declared essential and most taxpayers non essential.
          Nah... they need the taxes. They will use it as a push to take our trucks, guns and freedom, and otherwise trample our constitutional rights. I think this state might be red again soon however. Used to be and can be again
          People vote out on emotions, they're not going to be in a good mood when he tries to recoup the state budget. Most dems I know, even diehards, swear the party lost their vote with Pelosi's latest game's. Add in the fact they now realize they have been lied to for years about gun laws.....

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          • #20
            JDoe
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            • Jul 2008
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            Social distancing fail

            PPE fail

            Communications fail

            Using a flip phone from 2001 To video the whole encounter. Priceless.
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            • #21
              1bulletBarney
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              • Oct 2013
              • 1904

              Originally posted by GlockN'Roll
              I expect, within the next few weeks, a sudden and dramatic growth of the virus in the US coupled with a predictably large growth in mortality in the coming weeks.

              Big cities with their tight living are going to be especially hard hit.

              China didn't lock down Wuhan out of "an abundance of caution"...

              Many in the US continue to live, work and especially travel without regard to the consequences to our society...

              I look forward to being wrong on this topic.
              I was shocked after watching a piece on OANN regarding migrants in India fleeing cities in search of work due to coronavirus lockdown. The situation in the U.S. looks like a walk in the park compared to India...



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              • #22
                wpage
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                • Jan 2011
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                Time will tell. Libs in the meantime will paint a miserable landscape and then back off later. Since they know panic sells. And they love taxing on fear.
                God so loved the world He gave His only Son... Believe in Him and have everlasting life.
                John 3:16

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                • #23
                  KatMan53
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                  • Aug 2019
                  • 236

                  Well, its already at 33,000+ and rising. I would have to say this man's projection is already in trouble. And as far as that "Hey, they're old, have underlying conditions and would die anyway" stuff goes, would you want to infect your mom, dad or grandparents by that logic? Would you like a younger generation to write you off when you finally get to your "golden years?"
                  Last edited by KatMan53; 03-29-2020, 1:03 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Crusader Matt
                    Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 231

                    Originally posted by wpage
                    Time will tell. Libs in the meantime will paint a miserable landscape and then back off later. Since they know panic sells. And they love taxing on fear.
                    Exactly. Some Libs on this Board too.

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                    • #25
                      KatMan53
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                      • Aug 2019
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                      Originally posted by Crusader Matt
                      Exactly. Some Libs on this Board too.
                      Perhaps you could have Kestryll run a filter to weed out "Libs." That way everyone on this site will be carbon copies of each other; there will be no alternative opinions, no dissension and absolutely no need to discuss anything. And there'd be no loss! They'll still be gun owners, still support 2A, and best of all they'll never bother you with their silly, liberal statements anymore.

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                      • #26
                        SAN compnerd
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                        • May 2009
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                        Originally posted by bootstrap
                        Imperial vaccine Co. guy from the UK who published a paper that was used in implementing global public policy has reduced his projected death toll from 500,000 to less than 20,000 and "they would have probably died anyways because they are old and have underlying conditions..."

                        Nial Ferguson revised his numbers down again on Friday to just over 5k. He also stated that those people would most likly have died before the end of the year anyway.

                        We've been bamboozled into the biggest economic catastrophe in history.
                        "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

                        Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                        When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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                        • #27
                          SAN compnerd
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                          • May 2009
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                          Originally posted by SW1917
                          Notice it said "experts" but then it was ONE guys predictions

                          Lots of people acting like this was THE PREDICTION for the effects
                          There are a # of experts @ NIH & CDC and as far as I know they have not retracted their predictions

                          This guy had the worst case scenario and people act like everybody were using his #s so all the #s that are being used by OUR government to make decisions must be false FAIL!!!
                          Those graphs circulating with the curve showing how hospitals would be overwhelmed are based on his predictions. Many, many governments used his predictions to guide their reactions to this.

                          Dr. Fauci said a couple of weeks ago this would kill 2.2 million Americans. Today he says 200k

                          Wake up, they are all revising their estimates because they were based on bad data and assumptions.

                          Meanwhile the globe has been plunged into economic disaster by what's essentially a hoax created by the 'experts' at the WHO, CDC and NIH and folks like Ferguson.
                          "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

                          Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                          When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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                          • #28
                            SW1917
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 791

                            Originally posted by _TomT_
                            'experts'

                            *points to a guy on youtube
                            Is that better or worse than all the "experts" referring to twitter posts

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                            • #29
                              SW1917
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 791

                              "Dr. Fauci said a couple of weeks ago this would kill 2.2 million Americans. Today he says 200k"

                              Please show where he said "would" or was it maybe "could" confirmation biases?

                              "There are things called models, and when someone creates a model, they put in various assumptions. And the model is only as good and as accurate as your assumptions.

                              And whenever the modelers come in, they give a worst-case scenario and a best-case scenario. Generally, the reality is somewhere in the middle. I've never seen a model of the diseases that I've dealt with where the worst-case scenario actually came out. They always overshoot."
                              Last edited by SW1917; 03-29-2020, 2:56 PM.

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                              • #30
                                GlockN'Roll
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                                • May 2015
                                • 3688

                                "



                                IMHO, it is a little too early for victory laps or even significantly reduced infection/mortality estimates...

                                A few weeks to month from now, after testing samples a larger part of the population, we will have much more accurate data on which to base estimates.
                                Real Californian...

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