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  • IEatZ28
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2345

    quick S12 conversion questions

    The minimum length of the semi auto shotgun is 28"?

    But you can't have a folding, or extending stock?

    I want to convert my saiga 12 but I can't figure out how I want it yet.

    Are AFG GTG on a converted saiga12?
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    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30241

    Originally posted by nick9130White
    The minimum length of the semi auto shotgun is 28"?

    But you can't have a folding, or extending stock?

    I want to convert my saiga 12 but I can't figure out how I want it yet.

    Are AFG GTG on a converted saiga12?
    Minimum barrel length = 18" [PC 17180(a)]
    Minimum overall length = 26" [PC 17180(b)]
    Must always have a maglock. [PC 30515(a)(7)]
    Not legal to have both a folding/collapsing stock and a pistol grip or any type of vertical grip. [PC 30515(a)(6)]

    Magpul AFG is good-to-go.


    Penal Code 30515
    (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, "assault weapon" also means any of the following:
    (6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
    (A) A folding or telescoping stock.
    (B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
    (7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
    (8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

    Penal Code 17180
    As used in this part, "short-barreled shotgun" means any of the following:
    (a) A firearm that is designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell and has a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length.
    (b) A firearm that has an overall length of less than 26 inches and that is designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell.
    (c) Any weapon made from a shotgun (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length.
    (d) Any device that may be readily restored to fire a fixed shotgun shell which, when so restored, is a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive.
    (e) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, or any combination of parts from which a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, can be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.
    Last edited by Quiet; 01-06-2015, 7:59 PM. Reason: PC cites
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    • #3
      IEatZ28
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 2345

      Perfect, so I'll go the Ace skeleton stock and some pistol grip with an AFG on it. Thanks Quiet
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