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  • Seaweed02
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 1650

    Trap/Skeet/Clays etiquette?

    I have been looking for an O/U shotgun so I can get into the shooting sports. Trap, Skeet, Sporting Clays, and maybe even some hunting later on down the road. The only shotgun I have right now is a Benelli M2 Tactical. It has an 18.5 inch barrel and a Surefire integrated light forearm on it. But I do have the original forearm, and if I could find a 28 inch field barrel for it I could switch out the barrels and have a little more distance to the range of my gun. I'd have to remove the ghost ring sights on the receiver also, and that might be a pain in the behind, but it is an option. Would this be looked down upon at a Trap/Skeet/Clays range? Is it even allowed?
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    CaptnCaveman
    Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 232

    Barrel length & shot size are the restrictions that I've seen at the ranges I frequent. Sometimes they say low brass only or only lead or steel. I don't see any issue if you essentially turn your M2 into a field model. Maybe finding a used gun might be easier though in the long run.

    Shell catchers is something I hear about for etiquette when shooting doubles. I wouldn't worry about people looking down at your set up. I have found people to be really helpful on the trap and skeet fields. If you have a good attitude, then others with good attitudes tend to want to help you. If they look down on your rig, then who needs those types, anyways.

    Just my $0.02. I've only been at it for less than a year and I shoot one of the cheapest O/U you can find. I hadn't heard that a longer barrel will increase effective range. I thought that it was about swing and balance.

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    • #3
      JagerDog
      I need a LIFE!!
      • May 2011
      • 15118

      What exactly is your question?

      Many/most ranges have minimum barrel length requirements.

      Trap is the only game where ejecting your empties at your neighbor is a concern. A shell catcher or even a rubber band can eliminate that issue.

      I can't see anyone careing that you have a ghost ring on your receiver. Probably not to conducive too clay shooting, but that's your problem not theirs.
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      • #4
        foxtrotuniformlima
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 3459

        Some places have a min barrel length - some don't. Call and ask.

        As for if someone else will give you the stink eye ? oh hell yes !
        Anyone press will hear the fat lady sing.

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        • #5
          09cs
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 1704

          Originally posted by CaptnCaveman
          Barrel length & shot size are the restrictions that I've seen at the ranges I frequent. Sometimes they say low brass only or only lead or steel. I don't see any issue if you essentially turn your M2 into a field model. Maybe finding a used gun might be easier though in the long run.

          Shell catchers is something I hear about for etiquette when shooting doubles. I wouldn't worry about people looking down at your set up. I have found people to be really helpful on the trap and skeet fields. If you have a good attitude, then others with good attitudes tend to want to help you. If they look down on your rig, then who needs those types, anyways.

          Just my $0.02. I've only been at it for less than a year and I shoot one of the cheapest O/U you can find. I hadn't heard that a longer barrel will increase effective range. I thought that it was about swing and balance.
          That, trap/skeet shooters are usually some of the nicest shooters I experience. Usually very happy to let you join their group if they have room and offering tips!
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          • #6
            axhoaxho
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            • Jun 2009
            • 10068

            Originally posted by 09cs
            That, trap/skeet shooters are usually some of the nicest shooters I experience. Usually very happy to let you join their group if they have room and offering tips!
            Agree. Most, if not all, trap/skeet shooters are very nice folks. And they understand that not everyone would have budget for an O/U for the sports.

            Bring whichever shotgun you have (that meets the range requirements), plus a good attitude. Folks would help and together everyone would enjoy a great day shooting.

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            • #7
              09cs
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 1704

              Originally posted by axhoaxho
              Agree. Most, if not all, trap/skeet shooters are very nice folks. And they understand that not everyone would have budget for an O/U for the sports.

              Bring whichever shotgun you have (that meets the range requirements), plus a good attitude. Folks would help and together everyone would enjoy a great day shooting.
              Being a youngish clay shooter (21), most of the older shooters I ask to join are more than happy, and give me pointers that I gladly listen to to help me!
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              • #8
                Leagle8
                Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 106

                Don't be afraid to ask...just don't do the asking while the guy next to you on the trap line is getting ready to shoot. Etiquette wise, there is not a lot of loud talking on the trap range. Try not to break the rhythm of the squad. Trap shooters tend to establish almost a metronome beat as each shooter mounts and shoots. Trap and skeet guns usually don't have an automatic safety like some field guns just for that reason. (You will see a novice close the breech of a double then call his bird and nothing happens because he forgot to disengage his safety, thus breaking the rhythm of the entire squad.) That will draw some frowns but it happens. If you have an auto loader or pump, be familiar with loading and handling it. More for safety than etiquette, when you are rotating stations, be aware of your muzzle presentation. It should be pointing at the ground with the action open, a double should remain broken. Some people prefer to carry the gun with the muzzle to the sky (which is more awkward, given the proximity of the squad when it shifts.
                Skeet etiquette....compliment the shooter when he/she smoothly break a pair. "Nice pair! or "Pretty pair" is the usual compliment. When the shooter "powders" a clay with a full pattern....."nice lead" or "nice bird". Otherwise, say nothing or you may distract the shooter. I never give advice unless asked. Sometimes, people don't want to be told...as in trap...hold down the chatter. This sport takes full concentration and its just as rude to be speaking when a shooter is calling his bird or swinging on it as it would be to speak when a golfer is taking his shot.....just common courtesy....

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                • #9
                  09cs
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 1704

                  ^^^ Everything he said.

                  And yes, watch the talk on the trap line, especially if using voice activated throwers! Don't want to cause a bird to be thrown for someone else!
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                  • #10
                    JagerDog
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2011
                    • 15118

                    Originally posted by Leagle8
                    Don't be afraid to ask...just don't do the asking while the guy next to you on the trap line is getting ready to shoot. Etiquette wise, there is not a lot of loud talking on the trap range. Try not to break the rhythm of the squad. Trap shooters tend to establish almost a metronome beat as each shooter mounts and shoots. Trap and skeet guns usually don't have an automatic safety like some field guns just for that reason. (You will see a novice close the breech of a double then call his bird and nothing happens because he forgot to disengage his safety, thus breaking the rhythm of the entire squad.) That will draw some frowns but it happens. If you have an auto loader or pump, be familiar with loading and handling it. More for safety than etiquette, when you are rotating stations, be aware of your muzzle presentation. It should be pointing at the ground with the action open, a double should remain broken. Some people prefer to carry the gun with the muzzle to the sky (which is more awkward, given the proximity of the squad when it shifts.
                    Skeet etiquette....compliment the shooter when he/she smoothly break a pair. "Nice pair! or "Pretty pair" is the usual compliment. When the shooter "powders" a clay with a full pattern....."nice lead" or "nice bird". Otherwise, say nothing or you may distract the shooter. I never give advice unless asked. Sometimes, people don't want to be told...as in trap...hold down the chatter. This sport takes full concentration and its just as rude to be speaking when a shooter is calling his bird or swinging on it as it would be to speak when a golfer is taking his shot.....just common courtesy....
                    Yeah...if shooting trap with the "regulars", keeping with the cadence is rather expected. Chatter is held until the round is finished with perhaps something real quick while changing stations.

                    Skeet is a bit more social. Not a lot of chatter while someone's on station, but while changing shooters or changing stations there's ample time to comment, wise crack or whatever fits your group. Same with sporting with considerably more time between stations.
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                    • #11
                      ysr_racer
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 12014

                      Sporting clays is like golf with a shotgun. Much more social than trap or skeet because of the distance between shooting stations.

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                      • #12
                        09cs
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 1704

                        Originally posted by JagerDog
                        Yeah...if shooting trap with the "regulars", keeping with the cadence is rather expected. Chatter is held until the round is finished with perhaps something real quick while changing stations.

                        Skeet is a bit more social. Not a lot of chatter while someone's on station, but while changing shooters or changing stations there's ample time to comment, wise crack or whatever fits your group. Same with sporting with considerably more time between stations.
                        Even with skeet, if with a decent sized group, you can have the 4 people talking in the background, not loud enough to bother the shooter though

                        Originally posted by ysr_racer
                        Sporting clays is like golf with a shotgun. Much more social than trap or skeet because of the distance between shooting stations.
                        I never thought of it like that! lol
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                        • #13
                          Leagle8
                          Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 106

                          More about safety than etiquette. Unless shooting international trap where you get doubles, load only ONE round per pull and never change stations with a round in the gun, chambered or not in autos. you will get corrected by the guy next to you if you violate this rule. Same in skeet. Only load two at your doubles stations (1,2, 4, 6 and 7) when shooting doubles, otherwise, one at a time for the high, then for the low tower. Skeet etiquette and not a rule. You have one optional shot to complete your round of 25 birds. Proper etiquette is to shoot your option at the first missed bird or if you go clean...shoot your option at station 8, why? so as not to inconvenience the other shooters by wondering all over the course.

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                          • #14
                            grantar2
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 3581

                            Newbie question, so I am going to shoot Trap with an Auto, is someone really going to be close enough that my ejected shell could reach them?

                            How does a rubber band work?

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                            • #15
                              axhoaxho
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 10068

                              It depends on the gun... my Benelli's eject the shells with good manner; on the other hand, my FN SLP would shoot the empty shells across the field and hit everyone on the faces like bowling pins.

                              Ah, the rubber band thingy... just borrow some pictures from a fellow forumer to show the idea (big thanks to the fellow taking the pictures.)




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