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  • kcjr1125
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 3883

    Chokes & slugs

    So i just jailed a Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme and needless to say i am SUPER EXCITED and cannot wait to get my hands on it. Now i have a couple questions for you guys and i hope i can get the answers i am looking for.
    First ill start off with a pic of the beast:


    heres a video as well for your enjoyment:


    Now the Coach Gun comes with a IC and Modified Choke already installed that can be removed and interchanged with other chokes.

    My questions are:
    1) can i shoot slugs safely out of a scatter gun that has a choke installed?
    A) if so is there a specific choke that i absolutely cannot shoot slugs out of.
    B) Are there specific Slugs i cannot under any circumstances shoot with a choke installed?

    2) Can i remove the chokes all together from the BBL and treat it as if it were smooth Bore shotgun and not have any issues?

    I have some standard slugs i bought from walmart but i also have these WICKED Herters Slugs i bought off of Cabelas called the "multi-Defense" Shot shells. They have a 0.65" lead round ball followed by 6 #1 buck shot pellets! i would love to shoot these in the SxS 12G coach gun but i dont want to hurt myself or others or damage the gun itself so any insight in this is much appreciated! thanks guys and sorry if these questions are lame im kinda a newb to Shotguns with Chokes. Hey atleast i didnt call it a "shotty'" right?
    Last edited by kcjr1125; 10-29-2014, 9:26 AM.
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  • #2
    Merc1138
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19742

    1. Yes.
    a. Don't know.
    b. Don't know.
    2. Absolutely not. Remember that if you screw out those choke tubes, you're going to have bare threads in the barrel.

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    • #3
      Ribkick
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 702

      Originally posted by Merc1138
      1. Yes.
      a. Don't know.
      b. Don't know.
      2. Absolutely not. Remember that if you screw out those choke tubes, you're going to have bare threads in the barrel.
      To borrow Merc's typing (lazy):

      1. Yes.
      a. I get better accuracy from a MOD choke than I do from an IC or FULL*.
      b. Any commercial rifled slugs are safe with chokes through FULL. No Sabots.
      2. Absolutely not. Remember that if you screw out those choke tubes, you're going to have bare threads in the barrel.

      * Out to 100 yds. IMO, after 100 yds, you should use a rifle. Many will argue this but that's how I roll. I hate wounded game.
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      • #4
        Seaweed02
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 1650

        I'm new at this

        I am new to shotguns also, and I have been reading up on the do's and don't's so I don't get myself into trouble when I get started. One of the things I read was that slugs should not be fired out of M, IM, or F chokes. But the same article said it would be OK to fire slugs out of either C or IC chokes. Can anyone comment on that info? True, not true?

        OP, as to your second question. You will ruin the threads if you shoot it without a choke, but you can put in a Cylinder, AKA a "C" choke, and it is the same as just having a non-threaded barrel. At least I believe it is, someone will surely correct me quite harshly if I'm wrong.

        Update: I have already been corrected via PM! Apparently you can shoot slugs out of a choked barrel. Great news for me also.
        Last edited by Seaweed02; 10-29-2014, 7:36 PM.

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        • #5
          ceh383
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 2536

          A lot depends on the barrel bore diameter. If the bore is a standard .725" I would use CYL, SK or IC only. If your barrel is back bored to say, .742" you could safely use a MOD, possibly an IMOD. I would never use a FULL, damage MAY result. With a smooth bore barrel and standard chokes, use rifled slugs. A rifled barrel or rifled choke should be used with Sabot slugs...

          Hope this helps...
          "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

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          • #6
            Seaweed02
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 1650

            00 buckshot?

            Originally posted by ceh383
            A lot depends on the barrel bore diameter. If the bore is a standard .725" I would use CYL, SK or IC only. If your barrel is back bored to say, .742" you could safely use a MOD, possibly an IMOD. I would never use a FULL, damage MAY result. With a smooth bore barrel and standard chokes, use rifled slugs. A rifled barrel or rifled choke should be used with Sabot slugs...

            Hope this helps...
            00 buckshot should be fine with any choke as well right?

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            • #7
              ceh383
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 2536

              Originally posted by Seaweed02
              00 buckshot should be fine with any choke as well right?
              Any choke is fine with any shot size, slugs create possible pressure issues that do not exist with shot...
              "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

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              • #8
                BadMatt
                Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 355

                I have heard you're not supposed to shoot steel shot or nonlead shot out of a full choke.also, I have heard of people doing it anyway. It is supposed to be bad for your barrel though. When hunting ducks or turkeys with hevi-shot or steel shot, I use a special choke designed for it. Usually the ammunition box will say what kind of a choke you can fire it through. Or you can call the manufacturer. Perhaps more knowledgeable people will chime in.

                Good luck, shotguns are much funner than rifles IMHO.
                FS: Harris 6-9 bipod

                http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1137516

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                • #9
                  kcjr1125
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 3883

                  Originally posted by ceh383
                  A lot depends on the barrel bore diameter. If the bore is a standard .725" I would use CYL, SK or IC only. If your barrel is back bored to say, .742" you could safely use a MOD, possibly an IMOD. I would never use a FULL, damage MAY result. With a smooth bore barrel and standard chokes, use rifled slugs. A rifled barrel or rifled choke should be used with Sabot slugs...

                  Hope this helps...
                  How would i find this information out?
                  Originally posted by OHOD
                  I guess I could rub my muff against his exwifes muff. Is that what they call muff diving?
                  Originally posted by ivanimal
                  I love you! (some Homo)
                  I am a Gay muslim sometimes.
                  we never had the problems in CA till the whiteys took over. We used to hunt, fish, roam, then they showed up and wanted to be civilized.............Ruined it for everyone!

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                  • #10
                    Thefeeder
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 4998

                    ><

                    All the info is on the net.....you will need to look at sporting and hunting vids and posts....the HD stuff is not where you will find any info other then the same old wrong info that gets repeated.


                    Vids like this



                    Last edited by Thefeeder; 10-30-2014, 3:17 PM.

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                    • #11
                      ceh383
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 2536

                      Originally posted by ceh383
                      Any choke is fine with any shot size, slugs create possible pressure issues that do not exist with shot...
                      I should clarify the above statement. I was referring to lead shot, steel shot is different, make sure your barrel(s) and choke(s) are rated for it.
                      "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

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