Remington,Benelli or Beretta

[Tactical Fred]

So I shot trap a few weeks back with my brother. He had his Beretta Pigeon and i was allowed to use my Benelli M3 super 90. needless to say i was pretty embarrassed to be out there with a tactical shotgun. I did ok with it i guess i shot 15 my very first time shooting trap with it and 13 the second time around.

Needless to say i now want more suitable shotgun for clays. Wanted to see what you guys think of CZ Redhead Deluxe O/U for a newbe clay shooter. Are they pretty good or should i stay away from them.
They have 28" barrels single trigger. Riflegear has then for $ 879.00 seems fairly cheap compared to other O/U's i have seen.

What say you Calgunners ?

Update: So after seeing your comments about the CZ it has been scratched of the the list. I now am looking at a semi auto shotgun. What do you guys think of these 3 and which one would you get and why.

Remington 1100 trap
Benelli M2 field
Beretta A400 xplor

[savannah]

My personal opinion is to skip on this gun and buy an older, used, well made gun. If you can't afford it, I would save up and buy a well made gun. If you are using this gun for clays, you will put thousand of rounds through it. No sense buying a cheap gun. Get the best you can afford.

[bigbearbear]

I would say go for a semi-auto instead. You tend to get "more gun" for the buck compared to a O/U. A Benelli M2 Field will be a pretty nice addition to your M3.

[anti]

I would say go for a semi-auto instead. You tend to get "more gun" for the buck compared to a O/U. A Benelli M2 Field will be a pretty nice addition to your M3.

Very true...

A Remington 1100 trap is a great semi for the money. My only gripe is the low rib; I prefer a more heads-up gun mount with a higher rib, which is why I love my BT-99.

[Thefeeder]

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5 times a better shotgun for the same price ( price in hand )

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=438876350

[Sleighter]

5 times a better shotgun for the same price ( price in hand )

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=438876350

They won't ship to California

[Thefeeder]

They won't ship to California

Come on now....your missing the point

[DriftinG Z32]

IMO the CZ Redhead Deluxe is a perfect candidate for a entry level/beginner shotgun for clays. The Deluxe and other CZ models are a great value for the money. Don't let the $1K price scare you away.

Sure there's better quality O/Us out there (i.e., Browning), but unless you're going to get serious with clays and partake consistently throughout the year, there's no need to speed extra money.

[stockranger]

You will need a new recoil pad right away. That hard thing it ships with will blow your shoulder off. Since its grind to fit add 100 bucks right there. Look in the used long guns. Someone was selling a browning citori in great shape for 1,200. I agree you should just hold out for the right used o/u. I had to check calguns every 4 hours for about 8 months till one came up.

Another great option would be to get a beretta a300( I recomend the wood stock as the plastic one is a very cheap flimsy stock). It will shoot softer and if you can't hit it the gun is certainly not going to be at fault.

[Tactical Fred]

thanks for you input guys. I think the semi out is the way to go . Seeing how the going away of SSE this year has left my wallet hurting. Might as well just say a little more and get something better.

[jay_cue]

I went with a 24" Benelli M2 field. I went this route thinking I'd like to try out 3 gun and trap. I haven't had a chance to try out 3 gun, but have been able to use it for trap. I've done decent so far. only thing I've added was an easy hit fiber optic front sight. I also adjusted the drop with the shims that come with it. I also swapped out the choke from improve cylinder to modified, which also come with the gun. the comfort stock is great and you don't feel beat up after shooting a couple rounds.

[JagerDog]

My personal opinion is to skip on this gun and buy an older, used, well made gun. If you can't afford it, I would save up and buy a well made gun. If you are using this gun for clays, you will put thousand of rounds through it. No sense buying a cheap gun. Get the best you can afford.

^^^^^^ding.

Plenty of 686's and Citoris out there for not much more $'s. The Japanese SKB's or Miroku (mfg of Citori) can be a good value as well. They'll remain worth what you paid for them years and 1000's of rounds later if you take care of them.

Or one of several field grade quality automagics. The Beretta 3 series and the Benelli Super 90 platforms are commonplace in the Argentina dove fields. I'd expect the 4 series and things like browning Gold/silver to be comparable in durability if not svelte.

I've had too many failures with "cheap" shotguns once the volume got to be significantly more than the typical "hunter". A couple hundred rounds per year x 10 years isn't a measure I'm interested in. In a target gun, that's a big weekend.

[Tactical Fred]

^^^^^^ding.

Plenty of 686's and Citoris out there for not much more $'s. The Japanese SKB's or Miroku (mfg of Citori) can be a good value as well. They'll remain worth what you paid for them years and 1000's of rounds later if you take care of them.

What can you tell me about these "Made In Japan" Citori's ? Are they good quality ? I am not a big fan of used guns. Not saying i wouldn't ever buy one just prefer to have a new one, kinda like a car

[JagerDog]

What can you tell me about these "Made In Japan" Citori's ? Are they good quality ? I am not a big fan of used guns. Not saying i wouldn't ever buy one just prefer to have a new one, kinda like a car

All Citori's are made in Japan. They're simply a more mass manufacturable version of the Belgium Browning Superposed. For years they've been the "go to" entry level target gun in target trim and ubiquitous as well in the bird fields in field trim. Other than perhaps a firing pin or spring their lifspan is measured in 100's of 1000's of rounds.

Their "weak link" in the target world is that the receivers are matched to the barrels vs, the other way around (Beretta). Adding barrels later on isn't a real viable option. Pretty much you buy a set, or go to tubes if you want to look at sub-gauges or top/bottom single, etc. in the future.

So many have been sold, finding a closet queen is easy. I would have zero reservation of adding one and expect it to go 100's of 1000's of rounds.

[Tactical Fred]

Thanks for the info J-dog I'll take another look at them as well.