Mossy 500 security 20",

[gunhun]

Just DROS'd a Mossberg 500 20" 7+1 (yes, the Big 5 one). Looks very similar to Mossberg 590. Looks like the 590 has a heat shield, 1 more round in the tube, and maybe a metal trigger guard instead of the plastic one on the Mossy 500.

I don't think I need a heat shield and 7+1 is enough for me, but I wonder whether plastic vs aluminum trigger guard makes a significant difference.

Anybody here ever have problems with the plastic trigger guard and base on a mossberg 500?
Any other differences with the 590 worth knowing about?

[madsend81]

It all depends on how you plan to use the shotgun

I don't think I need a heat shield

If you're not grabbing the barrel while shooting, you'll be fine

but I wonder whether plastic vs aluminum trigger guard makes a significant difference.

Anybody here ever have problems with the plastic trigger guard and base on a mossberg 500?

If you plan on using it for HD and/or target shooting, you probably won't notice the plastic trigger guard. It will hold up just fine.

[riftol]

Just DROS'd a Mossberg 500 20" 7+1 (yes, the Big 5 one). Looks very similar to Mossberg 590. Looks like the 590 has a heat shield, 1 more round in the tube, and maybe a metal trigger guard instead of the plastic one on the Mossy 500.

I don't think I need a heat shield and 7+1 is enough for me, but I wonder whether plastic vs aluminum trigger guard makes a significant difference.

Anybody here ever have problems with the plastic trigger guard and base on a mossberg 500?
Any other differences with the 590 worth knowing about?

You don't need a heat shield.

I think the 590 has a steel receiver.

I had a Mossberg 500 with a plastic trigger housing that included an integral plastic trigger guard; it never broke or malfunctioned.

Many years ago I transferred that gun to my friend; the plastic trigger housing is still working perfectly.

[kilrain]

As madsend81 said, you won't notice the plastic trigger guard, nothing wrong with it at all.

You don't need a heat shield.

True, it's more for looks than anything else unless you plan on getting in a heated firefight that devolves into a bayonet charge.

I think the 590 has a steel receiver.

590 and 590A1 have the same aluminum receiver as the 500.

[Steve_In_29]

.....I don't think I need a heat shield....

You WILL change your mind on that the FIRST time you do a mag dump at the range and then flip the shotty over to do a reload. To balance the shotty your hand will end up on the barrel just forward of the chamber. OUCH!!!

You can buy one of the universal heat shields from most LGSs.

[kilrain]

You WILL change your mind on that the FIRST time you do a mag dump at the range and then flip the shotty over to do a reload. To balance the shotty your hand will end up on the barrel just forward of the chamber. OUCH!!!

In the method you describe, are you holding the gun in your off hand and loading with your firing hand? He could just maintain a firing grip and load the gun in the bottom without looking. He could also maintain a firing grip, cant the muzzle up and stock down under his arm, turn the gun sideways and load it that way. Or he could turn the gun over while maintaining a grip on the pistol grip and wedge the stock under his arm and load it that way.

Not sure why you would choose a reloading method that would potentially require you to have a heat shield to prevent from injuring yourself? Is this method of loading some specific type of training? Just curious.....

[gunhun]

All good input. I do weak hand reloads, so don't intend to flip it over.

Good to know. Plastic works on many semi-autos, so why not shotties. I just wondered because there's a Iraqveteran youtube vid saying they;ve seen alot of broke ones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcu_HCU7814

Yeah, I noticed the bayonet lug on the 590. The thought of a bayonet on a shotty still cracks me up

[kilrain]

Yeah, I noticed the bayonet lug on the 590. The thought of a bayonet on a shotty still cracks me up

This one would give you some reach..........

[gunhun]

Lol!
Shotty combat is meant to be shorter distance than rifle. If it makes sense to have a bayo on a rifle, why not a shotty.

Do any modern military rifles still use bayos?

[kilrain]

Do any modern military rifles still use bayos?

I believe that currently issued U.S. M16 variants all have bayonet lugs on them.

[riftol]

590 and 590A1 have the same aluminum receiver as the 500.

I stand corrected.

Were any of the 500's derivatives made with steel receivers?

[kilrain]

I stand corrected.

Were any of the 500's derivatives made with steel receivers?

No, not that I am aware of. The 500 model, which came out in 1961 I believe, was a product improved/simplified version of the Remington Model 31 shotgun, which was the predecessor shotgun to the 870. The 31 was mostly made in steel receivers but there were some produced in aluminum in the late 40s/early 50s.

I have an old, made in 1942, Kansas City PD marked Remington Model 31 Police model. Super sweet gun.

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[Vz58man]

GOOD CHOICE. LOVE MOSSYS. BEST SHOTGUNS IN MY BOOK. That wasnt yelling. fingergot stuck...lol

[GunnerMichael]

Mossber 500 Persuader 8 shots are awesome.

I have the 500 (8 shot) also and love it. I actually enjoy shooting it more than my hand guns or rifle. I bought a bunch of Fiocchi low recoil slugs after a few sessions of the Winchester Super X (1600ftz 1oz slug = bruises). Go buy a few boxes for target practice, you won't regret it (got mine at a gun show).

As for reloading the gun, I leave my left hand on the forend, rotate the gun slightly, top to the left, and load with my right hand. Never touch the barrel.

I recommend getting a red dot scope (I got the BSA at Amazon, under $30, great little scope. You will also have to get a rail, $10 on Amazon also). I can grab a sight picture faster than I can pump the gun. I can group in 2 inches at 10 yards without even trying very hard (the slugs basically go through the same hole). The only downside is if you are using it for home protection it is one more thing to do before you are ready to defend yourself(by "one more thing" I mean turning on the scope). You will have to decide if that time is worth the tactical gain (sacrifice 1 second for accuracy). If you think about it most HD situations you would be pretty close and at close range shotguns are easy to aim with practice, even without a scope. I also mounted a flashlight underneath and in front of the forend.

The only thing the 500 and the 590 share is the receiver and some of the internal components. The barrel is different (much more heavy duty on the 590), the magazine is different and most of the other parts are different (like the trigger assembly). You can by the metal trigger assembly at midway, they are interchangeable, but unless you plan on going into combat I don't think it is necessary. I think you can get the 590 with the basic Mossy stock but I have only seen them with the shell storage stock.

If your wondering if you would like the 590 better, maybe, but both are fun as hell and you made a good choice IMO.

WOW, wasn't that a ramble.

[kilrain]

As for reloading the gun, I leave my left hand on the forend, rotate the gun slightly, top to the left, and load with my right hand. Never touch the barrel.

That's similar to a method used by some in competition shooting that I've seen.

The only thing the 500 and the 590 share is the receiver and some of the internal components. The barrel is different (much more heavy duty on the 590), the magazine is different and most of the other parts are different (like the trigger assembly). You can by the metal trigger assembly at midway, they are interchangeable, but unless you plan on going into combat I don't think it is necessary. I think you can get the 590 with the basic Mossy stock but I have only seen them with the shell storage stock.

If your wondering if you would like the 590 better, maybe, but both are fun as hell and you made a good choice IMO.

The trigger assembly for the 500/590/590A1 are all interchangeable, unless you have a much(mid-80s) earlier model 500. The only difference is whether it's metal or plastic.

You can make a 500 into a 590 or 590A1 or vice-versa if you buy and change out the parts, which are the magazine tube and cap, magazine spring, magazine follower and barrel. The 590A1 uses the metal trigger group and safety button.

PS - I forgot that for some reason, Mossberg doesn't always abide by it's own model/equipment standards. There are guns produced that have the cleanout style magazine and matching barrel that Mossberg labels as 500 models, but they are not as common.