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  • Nrai2020
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 2342

    #4 buckshot ??

    What are your feelings/opinions on it for HD?
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    00 buckshot
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    #1 buckshot
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    #4 buckshot
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    Birdshot
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    Slugs
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  • #2
    Canucky
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 4265

    I suggest go pattern your gun at different distances. I don't think I have tried #4 buck even. Will have to search through my stock and see if i have any to try. I use 00 buck for home protection.
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    • #3
      sierra m37
      Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 294

      Ayoob I think recommends 2 rounds of #4 followed by 00 just in case you have to go through a wall or door to follow up. YMMV. Cheers.

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      • #4
        8886
        Banned
        • Aug 2011
        • 1730

        Single 0 buck?

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        • #5
          tommyfly
          Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 349

          I keep mine loaded first with #4 then with 00

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          • #6
            Google it Research
            Banned
            • Jan 2013
            • 382

            I choose OO buck only because there wasn't OOO buck. I like OOO because there are 8 pellets not 9 like in OO. Frequently OO will have what's called a "flyer".

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            • #7
              the86d
              Calguns Addict
              • Jul 2011
              • 9587

              Cops use #4, so it should be good enough for us, but I have yet to find any when I had the funds.

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              • #8
                NYCShooter
                Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 133

                Originally posted by the86d
                Cops use #4, so it should be good enough for us,...
                I am not aware of any LE agencies that specify #4 for duty. Study after study has demonstrated that the most effective stopper is 1B, followed by 00; #4 is considered marginal. For several years my load of choice was LE132-00, then Federal finally introduced LE132-1B, and I purchased several cases. Unfortunately, this ammo is in such great demand that it is almost impossible to find any source that currently has stock.

                This study should be of interest:http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs10.htm

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                • #9
                  TheBest
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1114

                  Winchester PDX1 12 gauge.

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                  • #10
                    John Joseph
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 789

                    Any buck shot is going to create a rat hole at typical HD range.
                    If you're sending shot down an alley or clearing a warehouse or facing a riot or repelling pirates, or even hunting bucks, that's a different story, but it isn't a HD scenario.

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                    • #11
                      NapalmCheese
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 5953

                      #4 buck is marginal, meaning it just barely (or doesn't quite, I don't remember) meet(s) the FBI minimum recommended penetration depth in ordinance gel, meaning it'll go through less sheetrock, insulation, glass, and fewer 2x4s than 00.
                      Calguns.net, where everyone responding to your post is a Navy Force Delta Recon 6 Sniperator.

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                      • #12
                        tmh1
                        Kitchen Operator
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 1903

                        You didn't specify, but since you apparently have a KSG 12 I'm assuming your question was regarding 12 ga. 00 buck for me there. HOWEVER in my wife's 20ga HD gun we run #4 buck.
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                        • #13
                          ExtremeX
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 7160

                          … it depends on where you live, and how concerned you are with over penetration or what happens when you miss.

                          If you live in an apartment with shared walls you would probably approached the answer a lot different that someone who lives on a ranch.
                          ExtremeX

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                          • #14
                            Junkie
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 4848

                            I run 00 mostly because it's easier to find.
                            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
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                            • #15
                              DennisCA
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 4038

                              Originally posted by Canucky
                              I suggest go pattern your gun at different distances. I don't think I have tried #4 buck even. Will have to search through my stock and see if i have any to try. I use 00 buck for home protection.
                              http://www.shotgunworld.com/ammo_s082000.html
                              Agreed!

                              Take your shotgun out and patteren it - with several different loads.

                              It also depends where/what type of structure you live in.
                              "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.

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