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  • Constitutional
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    • Oct 2012
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    Last edited by Constitutional; 01-01-2014, 12:51 AM. Reason: over
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    Constitutional
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    Last edited by Constitutional; 01-01-2014, 12:55 AM. Reason: over

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      Scuba951
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 1037

      I think with that stock, your biggest issue is question #6 on the flow chart.
      The stock says it allows the shotgun to be fired in the shortest possible position.
      If the shotgun is under 26" with it folded, that's where you'll have an issue.

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        2shotjoe
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2011
        • 26549

        Should be fine.

        Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk
        Originally posted by Kestryll
        ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
        Originally posted by Libertarian777
        ...Don't pick either side....

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          Constitutional
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          • Oct 2012
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          Last edited by Constitutional; 01-01-2014, 12:52 AM. Reason: over

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            E Michael
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 2513

            Its a pump so you should be g2g

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              mossy
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 7384

              Its legal.

              Wow i had no idea thw were bringing the sidewinder back.
              best troll thread in calguns history
              http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=406739



              burn the circus down cuz the world is full of clowns

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                Chewy65
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2013
                • 5044

                If it can hold 10 in the drum and 1 in the chamber its illegal.

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                  mossy
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 7384

                  Originally posted by Chewy65
                  If it can hold 10 in the drum and 1 in the chamber its illegal.


                  please read and understand the laws before you post...............by this definition EVERY pistol and rifle with a 10 round mag would be illegal.


                  now back to the OP, i watched a few videos on the sidewinder and it says you need to use a cutting tool on the receiver to fit the new tube on, after you re size the receiver will the old standard tube still function properly if you want to take off the conversion?
                  best troll thread in calguns history
                  http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=406739



                  burn the circus down cuz the world is full of clowns

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                    Constitutional
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 89

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                    Last edited by Constitutional; 01-01-2014, 12:52 AM. Reason: over

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                      mossy
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 7384

                      Originally posted by Constitutional
                      Of course it's legal.
                      So, would you buy it?
                      Is it interesting or worthless?
                      Will it be banned in the near future?
                      i wont buy it if the cutting tool opens the receiver up and makes a regular tube useless.

                      no clue if it will be banned, knoxx made a version of them back in the day, but stopped production.
                      best troll thread in calguns history
                      http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=406739



                      burn the circus down cuz the world is full of clowns

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                        mossy
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 7384

                        i think the receiver made by Black Aces tactical is better, it replaces the stock receiver and will accept saiga 12 mags. only problem is it requires a DROS and i have no idea where to get one.
                        best troll thread in calguns history
                        http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=406739



                        burn the circus down cuz the world is full of clowns

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                          Constitutional
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                            Constitutional
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                            Last edited by Constitutional; 01-01-2014, 12:53 AM. Reason: over

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                              mossy
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 7384

                              Originally posted by Constitutional
                              The kit I'm familiar with, included that "cutting tool". Don't use it.
                              Since no license to manufacture is held here, was leery of having the receiver messed with. That could possibly be construed as "manufacturing". Besides, you want your receiver to always accept Mossberg factory parts.
                              A Google search brought up the company's most recent video how to.
                              The new instructions are to [instead] slowly sand off the threaded end of the mag tube included in the kit. This makes much more sense. Instead of screwing up your receiver, you slowly sand the threaded end of the new magazine tube. Since the new tube must line up exactly (new mag well in downward position), you need to sand in short sessions. Using 36 grit paper, one minute sanding at a time, & about 30 minutes total, and about 8 trial fittings, it all ended up perfect. Hold the new tube squarely to the sanding surface & I'd recommend using compressed air to blow away the debris before each trial fitting. But check out their video.

                              FYI, tape up the end of the receiver where the new tube screws in. If you fail to hold back the new mag release lever while twisting, you'll scratch the receiver.

                              PS, if you have a new gun, beware, the factory tube is held in with Lock-tite. You may destroy your original mag tube trying to get it off. Search for yourself on how to overcome this.

                              A cheap Mossberg can be had throughout the State. So Hell, just go for it, while you can. How many things came & got banned, leaving you wondering "why didn't I get one of those!"

                              I tell you what, A.T. now owes me a kit for all I've said here. Make it happen A.T. ! (please )
                              Thanks. You dont have to worry about a manufacturing license, you are not making it to sell. Just like 80% receivers. Let me know if yoh find a place that sells black ace tactical receiver to California.
                              best troll thread in calguns history
                              http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=406739



                              burn the circus down cuz the world is full of clowns

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