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  • slick_711
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 4400

    Did you know? (colored hulls)

    I'm curious what percentage of people here are properly familiar with shotshells. I have witnessed so many incidents (no injuries thankfully) at the range, that I have come to believe newer (or less experienced) shooters pay zero attention to what they put in their gun if it looks remotely correct.

    So my question, assuming honesty on your parts:

    If you're at the range and your range buddy gives you a handful of shotgun shells and says "here shoot these, I bought them on the way here." Do you check them closely before you shoot them? Or do you take his word for it that they're the correct caliber. How many of you are aware that 99.9% of the time if a shotshell has a yellow hull it is 20ga, and a purple hull it is 16ga?

    I can't count the number of times I've cleared 20ga shells from the barrel of a 12 ga, and more recently 16ga shells. This is worrisome as a range officer. Especially when the shooter is a Navy SEAL.

    I guess this is partly a rant/observation on my part, and partly me posing a question as to what percentage of the shooting community realizes shotshells are colorcoded.
  • #2
    Crusader
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2995

    I hadn't noticed that at all. I have three different colors of shotshells in my arsenal at the moment, and all of them are 12 gauge. I've got black, grey, and red shells, but all three colors are different buckshot loads.

    However, I make sure to check the ammo that I am loading, and only load a magazine or the gun just before I shoot it, so that I don't confuse them with other mags or leave a loaded gun unattended.

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    • #3
      slick_711
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 4400

      Yeah, 12 ga varies by manufacturer, red, green, black, gray, blue, even a few obscure colors for special loads (gold/silver AAs for example). But purple & yellow are reserved for 16 & 20 gauges respectively for safety reasons and quick identification. Doesn't really matter as long as you check your ammo, but it's good to know.

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      • #4
        FlyingPen
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 2377

        Maybe he's so high speed since he's a SEAL that he knew of a special technique to make a 20ga work in a 12ga!

        I have noticed that's its pretty annoying when someone is shooting a shotgun next to me and it sprinkles my target with small holes everywhere. Not so bad on a regular target but annoying on a Shoot-N-C that you paid more for.
        Last edited by FlyingPen; 07-10-2008, 7:19 PM.

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        • #5
          grammaton76
          Administrator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2005
          • 9511

          Never knew about the yellow and purple shells, but I only mess with 12ga so I've only got red, green, and clear.
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          • #6
            deleted by PC police
            Banned
            • Feb 2008
            • 1374

            I tagged along for a grouse hunt with one of my friends. Eventually I got bored of walking through the woods cause that's all we were doing and wanted to shoot something. I take aim at a stump or something and click. I start to pull the gun apart cause my friend didn't even know how to maintain his own gun, I didn't even own guns at this point and I knew more about them than him. I tore the gun down into lots of pieces and determined that to the best of my knowledge it worked, put it back together and racked a shell, click. We start heading back and I pulled the shell out looked at it, he had bought 16 guage shells. He will never live that one down, I so wish we had have come across the grouse of a lifetime or something to add on to it.

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            • #7
              tziggs
              Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 301

              I'm new to shotgunning, so I didn't know about the colors differences. Thanks for sharing. Now, you have one less idiot to deal with at the range.

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              • #8
                bohoki
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 20816

                i got some orange 12 ga


                funny all my 10 ga is brown hulled

                my 410 is red but if you mix that up i think you deserve whatever happens

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                • #9
                  Spyder
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 17047

                  Yeeup. I guess I'm the first one, other than the first guy, to know this? One of the VERY first things my dad ever taught me...since we always took both a 20 and a 12 to the range, was to make damned good and sure which was being loaded into which. And the color was the first step of knowing...

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                  • #10
                    SteveH
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 1576

                    Shot shells used to be color cordinated. Its not enforced by saami or the manufacturers anymore.

                    I have 12gauge shells that are red, green, black, purple, blue, white, grey, clear and burgundy.

                    I have 20 gauge that are black, yellow, clear.

                    .410 that are black, red, clear.

                    I dont own a 16 gauge.

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                    • #11
                      sloguy
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 1999

                      you guys know that the gauge is on the headstamp, right? ive seen yellow 12 gauge before so seriously, just read the headstamps, its more reliable.
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                      • #12
                        Rumpled
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 1636

                        I've known for years that most 20 gauge shells are yellow.
                        And that there are many colors in 12 gauge.
                        Didn't know the purple about 16's and my dad even had one for a while.

                        What my Dad did was to buy different gauge shells from different manufacturers so each gauge only had one color.

                        It also goes without saying that every round to be put into every weapon should be verified.

                        I've been told a 20 dropped down a 12 chamber and then having its' primer struck by the 12 ga shot can cause lots of imperfections in the barrel. Though, I've never seen pics.

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                        • #13
                          taloft
                          Well used Member
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 2696

                          I wonder how many people own both a 20ga. and a 12ga. and don't know that you can put a 20ga. shell in the chamber of a 12ga. and then put a 12ga. shell in right behind it? Firing it in this condition can result in serious damage to both shotgun and shooter.

                          To prevent this problem, I never carry both gauges on me at the same time. I also make sure I completely empty out all pockets of shell carriers and vests after using them. This makes it less likely to mix up ammo between trips.
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                          • #14
                            Moonclip
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 4390

                            I have an example of a 20ga RED shell by a maker called US ammo IIRC, Big 5 had them. Very irresponsible. I have a green 10ga shell also.

                            If you see yellow or purple and you have a 12ga pay attention!
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                            • #15
                              ivanimal
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                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 14357

                              I have a ton of old 20 Ga that is multicolored. Be careful out there and as alwats only carry the ammo for the gun in your hand.
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