VEPR 12 SIDE FOLDING STOCK

[Flyinmsm]

looking into getting a vepr 12 semi auto shotgun with side folding stock. i know that we have a 30 inch rule to allow folding of the stock on rifles. is it possible with a semi auto shotgun? ive heard mixed answers. trying to clarify

[Vertigofirearms]

nope.avi

[Flyinmsm]

thats a bummer.. time to move outta here.

[Quiet]

CA assault weapons laws for shotguns differ from those of rifles and handguns.
What may be legal for one, may not be legal for another.

The only overall length requirement for shotguns is that it is 26" or greater, with the overall length measured with the firearm in the shortest possible firing configuration.
If the overall length is shorter than 26", then it will be considered a Short Barrel Shotgun (SBS).

However...
Semi-auto shotguns can not have a folding/extending stock and a pistol grip. [PC 30515(a)(6)]




Penal Code 30515
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

[jeremy12]

is there "bullet button" equivalent for folding stocks?

[omnitravis]

They aren't allowed, so, no.

[raven290]

Well, kind of. You can have a folding stock that is pinned or welded so it can't fold. It wouldn't be like a bullet button in the sense that it really still is a detachable magazine that's a pain in the ***. But if you just like the look or LOP or something, you could have a "folding" stock. It would just have to permanently be extended.

[Quiet]

A maglock (fixed magazine) is mandatory on all Saiga/VEPR shotguns, no matter how they are configured.

Semi-auto shotguns that accept detachable magazines are assault weapons. [PC 30515(a)(7)]

Therefore, semi-auto shotguns must operate using a fixed magazine.
Folding/extending stock & pistol grip are a separate issue that is not negated if it has a fixed magazine.

[raven290]

He didn't mean "does it require a bullet button?"

He meant "is there a device that make a folding stock a fixed stock in the same manner that a detachable magazine is made into a fixed magazine by use of a bullet button?"

He want to have a folding stock but have it be "fixed" so he could still fold it with the use of a tool. (No, he can't)

[Flyinmsm]

I messages the ppl on the calguns Facebook. They said I could ? I'm lost.

Me:
hey calguns! glad to be part of the community! I'm pretty new to everything and have a quick question. I was looking into purchasing the Vepr12 shotgun with the folding stock. The folding stock comes welded open, but I prefer the folding mechanism to function. Does the same 30" inch rule with the rifles apply towards the Vepr12 as well? Thanks in advance!


Calguns.net:
" Yes, the BATF minimum overall length requirement is applicable to all long guns. Check our flowcharts on the website for more detailed information."

[Flyinmsm]

I messages the ppl on the calguns Facebook. They said I could ? I'm lost.

Me:
hey calguns! glad to be part of the community! I'm pretty new to everything and have a quick question. I was looking into purchasing the Vepr12 shotgun with the folding stock. The folding stock comes welded open, but I prefer the folding mechanism to function. Does the same 30" inch rule with the rifles apply towards the Vepr12 as well? Thanks in advance!


Calguns.net:
" Yes, the BATF minimum overall length requirement is applicable to all long guns. Check our flowcharts on the website for more detailed information."

[bigbearbear]

I messages the ppl on the calguns Facebook. They said I could ? I'm lost.

Me:
hey calguns! glad to be part of the community! I'm pretty new to everything and have a quick question. I was looking into purchasing the Vepr12 shotgun with the folding stock. The folding stock comes welded open, but I prefer the folding mechanism to function. Does the same 30" inch rule with the rifles apply towards the Vepr12 as well? Thanks in advance!


Calguns.net:
" Yes, the BATF minimum overall length requirement is applicable to all long guns. Check our flowcharts on the website for more detailed information."

I suppose you can go try it, and send us a postcard from prison.

Ask yourself this: Can you find any semi-auto shotgun for sale at any California gun store that has a functioning collapsible stock?

[Flyinmsm]

Lol well that's why I'm trying to clarify. I'm getting mixed answers from reputable ppl.

[shellslinger]

Lol well that's why I'm trying to clarify. I'm getting mixed answers from reputable ppl.

Don't get into trouble!

Penal Code 30515
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

[Lostsheep]

Lol well that's why I'm trying to clarify. I'm getting mixed answers from reputable ppl.

Don't get into trouble!

Penal Code 30515
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Let's make it 3 times posting the pertinent PC


semi automatic + pistol grip + folding stock = assault weapon (per california)