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  • gcvt
    Orlando, Florida
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2008
    • 13768

    Can this rusted 870 be restored?

    I have what I believe to be a 20-25 year old Remington 870 Wingmaster 12ga with some serious rust on it.

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    Can this be restored by a qualified gunsmith?
    Originally posted by Kestryll
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  • #2
    bear93445
    Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 169

    From your pictures this is just surface rust. It can be cleaned up with steel wool and elbow grease. The important parts would be internal, such as the barrel and chamber. Any good gunsmith should be able to put this back into working order; unless there is hidden damage. Good Luck
    If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.
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    • #3
      CSACANNONEER
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      • Dec 2006
      • 44093

      Unless it has sentamental value, I wouldn't put a lot of money into a gun that you can replace so cheaply. If I were you, I'd clean it up myself and just let the metal brown itself instead of blueing.
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      • #4
        gcvt
        Orlando, Florida
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2008
        • 13768

        Well, there is some sentimental value here as the gun belonged to my Father. That's why I was thinking about taking it to a gunsmith and having it properly restored.

        The rust on the barrel is considerably worse than what you see on the receiver, so that may be a total loss and may just have to be replaced with a new barrel. The bolt assembly, slide block, trigger assembly, and wood are in near perfect condition though.

        If I were to take it to a gunsmith, any ideas on how much it would (should) cost to restore this to near-new condition?
        Originally posted by Kestryll
        I want to be Princess Anastasia today because I feel pretty
        Originally posted by QuarterBoreGunner
        Kes is really just an errand boy
        Originally posted by Kestryll
        I am NOT...anything other than a schmuck...

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        • #5
          CSACANNONEER
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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          • Dec 2006
          • 44093

          I bet you could have it reblued for between $100 and $150. If you're in The City, why don't you throw it in your truck and take it out to the lake. Lake Merced, that is. There's a gunclub there and you should find a few people that can recommend where to get the work done at. Many of the guys there are shooting $5k and up guns so, they should know the best people to take it to.
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          • #6
            REDHORSE
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2002
            • 1554

            Yea, surface rust. The surface will be etched/scarred. IMHO it would take a lot of work to hide most of the scarring. I don't think you'll completely get rid of it.

            I would media blast it with aluminum oxide, Parkerize the metal, and then if you don't like the Parkerize look, you can have it painted. They even have paint that looks like bluing. The Parkerizing will mask some of the etching and make an excellent base for the paint.
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            • #7
              Fjold
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Oct 2005
              • 22943

              Yep, replace the barrel.

              It looks like the holes for the trigger assembly pins are in good shape so a bead blasting and bluing would take care of it
              Frank

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              • #8
                bohoki
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 20818

                ive seen way worse come out looking good use lots of oil and some brass wool or a copper or brass brush

                for the heavy scale use a penny preferably pre-1982

                a little elbow grease will have it looking great

                if there is bad looking areas after use one of the bluing pens

                just keep if oiled or waxed after and learn to love the patena

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                • #9
                  Guns R Tools
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1782

                  Can a part like this tumbled, if tumbler is big enough?
                  'Cuz big holes are easier to see.

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                  • #10
                    Thefeeder
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 5007

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                    If you are in San Francisco....I can show you my wingmaster that was done with elbow grease... You can contact Remington for their reblue rates if you want a pro refinish. Figure to pay 175-200+spipping

                    I'll even show you how to get the rust off in person if interested.


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                    Last edited by Thefeeder; 07-05-2008, 10:59 PM.

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                    • #11
                      SteveH
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 1576

                      Originally posted by gcvt
                      I have what I believe to be a 20-25 year old Remington 870 Wingmaster 12ga with some serious rust on it.

                      Large photos...

                      Photo #1
                      Photo #2
                      Photo #3
                      Photo #4
                      Photo #5
                      Photo #6

                      Can this be restored by a qualified gunsmith?

                      Send it to Mac's Shootin Irons.

                      Hes running a special on 870s and does great work.

                      "For $165, you get all metal parts (Ex. springs & little pins) finished with our TG-1 finish in your choice of two of any of our four colors, all details and return shipping. (lower 48) Details include polishing the chamber, bore cleaning, burnishing a few pivot points to help it all run smoothly, etc. It's a complete job inside and out. "

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                      • #12
                        SteveH
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 1576

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                        • #13
                          Mikeb
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 3189

                          +1 for brass wool . I have been told, haven't tried it, that soaking the parts in a mixture of molassas and water will remove the rust. it takes a while and gets sort of nasty, mold and scum but won't damage the metal. It's a chelateing thing. Id disassemble it, take pictures as you go if your not sure how to get it back together then get a piece of plastic pipe and a cap and soak it for a week in a bottle of molasses and a gallon of water. You can water your roses with the gunk when your done they will like it. then a little wet or dry sand paper and a cold blue and your good to go.
                          take care
                          Mike
                          Last edited by Mikeb; 07-05-2008, 9:05 PM.

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                          • #14
                            g17owner
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 881

                            I'd media blast it and hit it with some gunkote or moly. It wouldnt be hard and the finish would be pretty good.

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                            • #15
                              drawn
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                              • Oct 2005
                              • 550

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