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  • brassburnz
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 3553

    HK Beneli vs. Benelli

    What are the main differences between the HK Benelli and the recent production Benelli M1 Super 90? If you had a choice between the two, which would be better for 3-gun?

    Thanks in advance.
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  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    Could be wrong, but AFAIK...
    HK Benelli = no 922r parts compliance
    Benelli = 922r parts compliance
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    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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    • #3
      randy
      In Memoriam
      • Nov 2006
      • 4642

      To the best of my knowledge the HK model only came in a ghetto blaster model. (tactical) Your mag extension will stick out 3" past the end of the barrel. That doesn't matter lots of people are set up that way. The tube will just get some blast from the barrel. Doesn't hurt a thing.

      Lots of people run the above setup with a new model tactical setup.

      The best model for limited class 3 gun is a 21" VR field model.

      The HK you could ghost load one on the lifter, on the newer models you have to modify the carrier to do that. Again no big deal.

      The Ghost ring sites on the tactical just get in the way for the most part.

      Brass burnz, let me know how I can help you.
      Last edited by randy; 07-01-2008, 5:31 PM.
      I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

      When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57117

        Randall Rausch

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        • #5
          randy
          In Memoriam
          • Nov 2006
          • 4642

          It's an easy fix to the carrier to get it to ghost load. If I could figure out the camera and how to load pictures I'd show the mods.
          I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

          When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57117

            Originally posted by randy
            It's an easy fix to the carrier to get it to ghost load.
            I know.
            I do them too.

            This is just to show the difference between new style and old style as they come from Benelli.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #7
              randy
              In Memoriam
              • Nov 2006
              • 4642

              Randall I have no doubt you know how to do it. I was just going to put it up for those that don't.
              I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

              When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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              • #8
                Exiledviking
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 1458

                Silly question...

                What is ghost loading?
                "Most people understand that guns deter criminals. If a killer were stalking your family, would you feel safer putting a sign out front announcing, "This Home Is a Gun-Free Zone"? But that is what the Westroads Mall did" (in Omaha, Neb).
                - John Lott -

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                • #9
                  randy
                  In Memoriam
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 4642

                  Ghost loading allows you to fill up your tube then put an extra shell on your shell lifter and one in the chamber. If you have a 5 round tube your gun you would load 5+1+1, a 7 round tube would be 7+1+1.

                  I didn't come up with the term but it's what I've heard it called.

                  Good luck
                  I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

                  When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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                  • #10
                    spitter3
                    Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 244

                    Originally posted by Exiledviking
                    Silly question...

                    What is ghost loading?

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                    • #11
                      TonyM
                      In Memoriam
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3071

                      You know what makes that even more funny? Your name.
                      Disenfranchised NRA Benefactor Life Member.

                      Originally posted by NorCalK9.com
                      Also dont worry if u have never built one once you go to a build party you will know everything and have a perfect functioning rifle.

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57117

                        Originally posted by TonyM
                        You know what makes that even more funny? Your name.
                        Oh man, the irony in that is rich.
                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                        • #13
                          PLINK
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 1773

                          Originally posted by randy
                          To the best of my knowledge the HK model only came in a ghetto blaster model. (tactical)
                          FWIW I have a HK marked M1S90 that is a field model - 28 inch vent rib barrel w/ bead sight. It can also be ghost loaded.

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57117

                            Originally posted by PLINK
                            FWIW I have a HK marked M1S90 that is a field model - 28 inch vent rib barrel w/ bead sight. It can also be ghost loaded.
                            ANY HK marked M1S90 can be ghost loaded.
                            It's only the post 2003 or 2004 guns that had the shell carrier re-timed.
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                            • #15
                              dw1784
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2006
                              • 705

                              Originally posted by randy
                              To the best of my knowledge the HK model only came in a ghetto blaster model. (tactical)
                              early HK versions (86 to early 90's I think) had 7 shot mags, pistol and rifle stock versions, with choice of rifle or ghost ring sights. There's a slug ver too, though it only came in std synth stock only.

                              with the AW ban, the mag tube was restricted to 5 rds for "sporting purposes".

                              at a shotgun class I compared my early M1 to the newer M1's(currently replaced by M2's). There's no difference, IMO. Unless you're a collector of Sterling, VA models(like a few HK fans ~snoobs~ out there), as Randy says, it's no big deal.

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