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  • briant8957
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 54

    PGO firearms

    So I happened to come across this article and I was just curious on your guy's opinion on it. for those too lazy to read:

    It's essentially saying that Pistol Grip Only (PGO) firearms (in this case, a Mossberg 500) with shortened barrels are legal and are not considered NFA items (given a specific configuration).

    How is this possible? By using the given specific definition of what defines a shotgun, and by having it in the PGO configuration from the start. What this does is have the firearm in question not become classified under that specific definition, thus excluding it from those respective laws/regulations (in this case, not "technically" being a shotgun).
    Of course, still being a firearm, it has to still conform to NFA rules.

    Now personally, I probably wouldn't want something like this anyways, but I was just curious if this would fly over here in California.
    Of course, looking at the flow-chart it wouldn't pass as a shotgun. But what if it weren't classified as one, as suggested in the article? What if from the start, the weapon was made without the intention to fire from the shoulder, and of course couldn't be made into a configuration which allowed that? Could it technically still be called a "shotgun" even though it doesn't meet the specific definition of one? Thoughts?
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    ke6guj
    Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    yes, ATF did say that 14" PGO "shotguns" that were over 26" OAL were not illegal NFA firearms, but you still have to comply with state laws as well. And since CA says that any firearm with a barrel <18" that can shoot a fixed shotgun shell is an SBS, you are out of luck in CA. Unless you want that PGO-gun with an OAL less than 26", then it becomes a federally-defined AOW, and those are legal in CA because properly-registered AOWs are exempt from CA's SBS laws.
    Jack



    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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