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ive used and experienced failures in both my 590 SP and 870's Security/Tactical Magnums just the same. if you want to know which is more reliable well that goes to mossberg but only slightly.
since mossbergs are alittle on the loose end, they can handle alot more dirt and debris in places that on other shotguns might have tight tolerances and be sensitive to fouling. yes, this makes the gun jiggle. but so what? the guns are mil spec tested and currently used by our marines in iraq, a place where dirt is an every day problem. they are also very light weight because mossberg chose the aluminum receivers. yea, its not as strong as steel. but does that mean all guns using anything but metal are weak? (glock, HK, S&W, sig sauer) when was the last time you saw a bent shotgun receiver? it hardly happens even in the toughest conditions.
dont get me wrong. remingtons do have advantages. they feel sturdier, and yes the some stuff is metal compared to mossberg. they are easier to fix and maintain; the parts are more readily available if (when) it breaks, and personally i favor the finish and appearance. they also have more upgrade accessories for the tacticool crowd. they have a great track record and price, as they are the most widely used shotgun for law enforcement use today.
but i still prefer mossberg. t
a few years ago at burro canyon i was out with some friends with our shotguns. we were setting up some targets and had our 870's and 590's against the truck with the actions open. a gust of wind came along blew all the shotguns into the dirt. man, im not talking surface dirt. no, by the time we got back, enough dirt had got into the actions to completely clog them. needless to say it was a huge mess, but we decided to take advantage of the event. test time! upon first cycling, the two remingtons would jam consistently with one another. the actions wouldnt close, preventing the guns from firing. at one point the pump handle completely seized up! fail! it took about 10 minutes of cleaning to get the 870 'reliable' to get through all 8 rounds!
once i loaded up my own mossberg, the first rack didnt close the action all the way. trying a secondary time yielded complete success and dropped a shower of sand out the bottom. gun fired with no problems. and i continued blasting 30 or 40 rounds with no failures to close or operate. later in the day, i got home and noticed alot of dirt buildup in the cracks, and crevices especially around the extractor and action arm. i was shocked that the gun didnt completely seize up. but only once. before this event i had decided on the mossberg 590 because my 500 was just so damn reliable. well after seeing what happened to my friends 870's, i can say i made the right choice.
these were just my experiences and im sure there are those which are completely opposite. so just take this as another experience
since mossbergs are alittle on the loose end, they can handle alot more dirt and debris in places that on other shotguns might have tight tolerances and be sensitive to fouling. yes, this makes the gun jiggle. but so what? the guns are mil spec tested and currently used by our marines in iraq, a place where dirt is an every day problem. they are also very light weight because mossberg chose the aluminum receivers. yea, its not as strong as steel. but does that mean all guns using anything but metal are weak? (glock, HK, S&W, sig sauer) when was the last time you saw a bent shotgun receiver? it hardly happens even in the toughest conditions.
dont get me wrong. remingtons do have advantages. they feel sturdier, and yes the some stuff is metal compared to mossberg. they are easier to fix and maintain; the parts are more readily available if (when) it breaks, and personally i favor the finish and appearance. they also have more upgrade accessories for the tacticool crowd. they have a great track record and price, as they are the most widely used shotgun for law enforcement use today.
but i still prefer mossberg. t
a few years ago at burro canyon i was out with some friends with our shotguns. we were setting up some targets and had our 870's and 590's against the truck with the actions open. a gust of wind came along blew all the shotguns into the dirt. man, im not talking surface dirt. no, by the time we got back, enough dirt had got into the actions to completely clog them. needless to say it was a huge mess, but we decided to take advantage of the event. test time! upon first cycling, the two remingtons would jam consistently with one another. the actions wouldnt close, preventing the guns from firing. at one point the pump handle completely seized up! fail! it took about 10 minutes of cleaning to get the 870 'reliable' to get through all 8 rounds!
once i loaded up my own mossberg, the first rack didnt close the action all the way. trying a secondary time yielded complete success and dropped a shower of sand out the bottom. gun fired with no problems. and i continued blasting 30 or 40 rounds with no failures to close or operate. later in the day, i got home and noticed alot of dirt buildup in the cracks, and crevices especially around the extractor and action arm. i was shocked that the gun didnt completely seize up. but only once. before this event i had decided on the mossberg 590 because my 500 was just so damn reliable. well after seeing what happened to my friends 870's, i can say i made the right choice.
these were just my experiences and im sure there are those which are completely opposite. so just take this as another experience
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