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  • OneFunGuy
    Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 480

    Gimme your thoughts on the Rossi .410

    I have owned guns all my life, but new to shotguns.
    Bought a Mossy 20GA bolt action a few years ago with my C&R, loved it.

    Yesterday bought a 20GA Mossy 500C. I guess I will get that in a few weeks.

    Now to my point. I would like to buy a Rossi .410, then maybe later pimp it.

    Would greatly appreciate input on the Rossi 410.

    I have read that the solid bullet Rossi's are just awful, but the shotguns
    are okay.

    Please offer up your thoughts. I want a 410 that I can pimp.

    Tommy
    I am not an attorney, but sure, go ahead.

    Earth provides enough to satisfy every mans needs, but not every mans greed.
  • #2
    aghauler
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 4794

    Originally posted by OneFunGuy
    I have owned guns all my life, but new to shotguns.
    Bought a Mossy 20GA bolt action a few years ago with my C&R, loved it.

    Yesterday bought a 20GA Mossy 500C. I guess I will get that in a few weeks.

    Now to my point. I would like to buy a Rossi .410, then maybe later pimp it.

    Would greatly appreciate input on the Rossi 410.

    I have read that the solid bullet Rossi's are just awful, but the shotguns
    are okay.

    Please offer up your thoughts. I want a 410 that I can pimp.

    Tommy
    Cabelas has a nice used Mossberg 500 in 410 at Reno for $249, saw it this AM.

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    • #3
      OneFunGuy
      Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 480

      BIG drive north. but I just bought a gun, was thinking a low bucks thing.

      My interest in the 410 is that I got a case of Sears .410, found in my dads stuff. Paper cased shells, look good though.
      I am not an attorney, but sure, go ahead.

      Earth provides enough to satisfy every mans needs, but not every mans greed.

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      • #4
        sealocan
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2012
        • 9950

        I've always been kind of a 12 gauge man myself and the Mossberg over the Remington - economy of the purchase price of it.

        I've heard the 410 ammo is expensive. it's great that you have the case but once that's gone...
        you should probably take a look current 410 ammo prices

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        • #5
          BroncoBob
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2008
          • 6019

          .410 ammo is on the pricey side so you're not going to blow through a ton of it. That being said I love my little .410, oh yeah she is real ammo sensitive.

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          • #6
            gun toting monkeyboy
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2008
            • 6820

            .410 is expensive. On the other hand, you can keep reloading it virtually forever with brass shells. Those are available online, or you can make them from any of a half a dozen different rimmed cases.

            On a whole, .410 is only a marginal shotgun gauge. It is too small for trap and skeet, unless you are really, really gifted. It isn't generally considered to be large enough for ducks and geese, since the payload of steel shot that you can cram in the little case is very limited. The slugs are not really noted for their massive stopping power. They are typically around 87 grains, and move along at 1500fps or so. All that being said, if you reload at all, you can keep a .410 running for a very long time on a limited amount of powder and shot. And while it isn't an ideal gun for any particular sport or hunting, it does well enough in a pinch as a survival tool. I used on to bag my first few critters when I was little. Which brings up another point in its favor. it is really easy for just about anybody to use. Even a scrawny 8 year old, running amok in the woods. And with the advent of .410 revolvers, there are now tons of interesting new defensive loads. Several sizes of buckshot, weird mixes of pellets and solid cylinders, you name it. If you are looking for something that is fun to shoot, and are willing to accept that it isn't going to be able to do all of the same things as a larger shotgun, a .410 isn't bad. Especially if you are mostly planning on using it for small game.

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            • #7
              mjsweims
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 807

              There is a reason the Rossi price is cheap. Just figure it out.
              Jack

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              • #8
                Des_Draws
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 70

                I have a Rossi RG410SS. Lever action stainless. Bought it about 6 weeks ago for the girl friend to shoot + being a lever action enthusiast thought it would make a nice addition.
                I heard about the problems (stiff loading gate, misaligned sights, poor internal finish, tends to jam, fails to eject, etc) Thought I could live with them and or fix them as I am somewhat familiar with Marlin 336 action issues. Luckily I have a 1895 Marlin that works flawlessly so I have something to compare it to
                Bought it off the internet paid $550 before taxes. Turns out it was a reconditioned unit, but looked ok and didn't see any major issues. First problem was girl friend hated it.. couldn't load it Way too stiff a loading gate, shooting at paper targets was no big thrill for her but the main thing was if she couldn't load it herself didn't want it Could not send it back without losing money so I decided to live with it and see if I can get it working better. Overall I think all the problems can be fixed: the loading gate and stiff action can fixed with with some tuning/polishing and lots of dummy round loading and cycling. It has improved a bit after maybe a hundred cycles or so

                There were a few disappointments for one thing the cylinder choke is not so good for trap or skeet and can't be changed. Another is the mag tube has an insert which allows only 5 round not the advertised 6 rounds. It does not feel like a Marlin action rifle-the action parts don't fit well so everything feels kind of loose and wobbly. The trigger flop is horrendous and seems to get worse every time I shoot it. It does lock up (lever catches on the trigger due to excessive play in the trigger) but I have managed to unlock it every time. Sometimes when I cycle it the bolt pushes the hammer back and then as the lever is closed it catches the hammer and pulls it back to a un-cocked position. Can be fixed with some more polishing of the underside of the bolt I reckon. I'm going to attempt to replace the trigger and sear with a WW trigger happy kit. It's for Marlin's but maybe it will fit.
                Overall the gun takes alot of tuning and fixing which is what I expected, but is also kinda of fun to shoot (< 50 yards with #8 shot have not tried buck shot yet)
                My main criteria is that it be reliable- no locking up and minimal (1 in 100) jamming. Ill continue to work on this. If all else fails I will sell it or send it back to Rossi/Brazitech and pray it comes back better and not worse


                My recommendations are 1) make sure of the return policy and costs, avoid buying it sight unseen like I did 2) be prepared to get some gun smithing done or maybe if you feel comfortable do some of it your self.

                Problems with Lever guns straight out of the box seem to be common these days but I'm sure some of these Rossi RG 410 rifles work fine maybe even work great. I'd be happy to share more if you have questions.

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                • #9
                  Ninask
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1029

                  Am enjoying my Rossi 410,
                  hoot to shoot, 410 is a fine small game gun,
                  will teach you to be a better shooter,
                  had no problems with my Rossi,
                  its not a super expensive gun but I love the lever concept,
                  limited to 2.5" shells but for small game at 20-30 yds #6 it is a hoot
                  if you reload its even better
                  think what 100 gr slug at 1500 fps can do
                  The 410 is underated among todays spoiled shooters
                  N

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                  • #10
                    Des_Draws
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 70

                    Update on problem child 410 RG. The sear was broken, which is what caused the trigger flop and lever firing. It was returned to Braztech for repair. It took about 2 months and counting, but they said I would have it in about a week. I have about 200 rounds worth of shells I plan to to shoot all of em and see what happens.
                    The fact that some people have had good experiences with them gives me hope

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                    • #11
                      kellbasade
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 2

                      410 ammo is on the pricey side so you're not going to blow through a ton of it. That being said I love my little .410, oh yeah she is real ammo sensitive.

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                      • #12
                        Medics197
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 582

                        i have a rem 1100 in 410, ammo is roughly 15-17$ for a box of 25. it's a fnatastic little shotgun. love mine.
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                        • #13
                          bigbossman
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 11063

                          Originally posted by Medics197
                          i have a rem 1100 in 410, ammo is roughly 15-17$ for a box of 25. it's a fnatastic little shotgun. love mine.
                          I have the skeet version of your gun, and it is a whole lot of fun to shoot skeet with it. And, over dogs it is the bee's knee's for shooting pheasant - kills them dead and doesn't destroy the bird like the fellow's who are shooting their blunderbuss 12's.



                          I reload for mine, so it is very cheap to shoot. I fished a used .410 MEC 600jr off of eBay for $50 a long time ago, and it's been gravy ever since. I now shoot it and a 20ga exclusively, and the 12's gather dust in the safe.
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                          • #14
                            Steve_In_29
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 5682

                            I bought the Mossberg 505 in .410 for my wife and while it is tiny I like how handy it as well. Mossberg also sells their 500 Cruiser in .410 as well, pistol grip, 18.5" barrel, 6+1 capacity.

                            Ammo isn't all that pricey really, <$12 at Walmart for birdshot. This is on par with high-brass 12/20G which makes sense since all the .410 I have seen was high-brass. There are some nice HD rounds for it from Remington and others that utilize up to 5 000Buck pellets.

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                            • #15
                              BigPimping
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 21441

                              Originally posted by mjsweims
                              There is a reason the Rossi price is cheap. Just figure it out.
                              My Rossi 357 revolver has been a faithful shooter for many years.
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