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  • triggs75
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 1835

    Benelli Supernova and 922(r)? Again

    I know there are threads about this on Calguns and other sights, but I do not see what people change out and the correct total number of imported parts.

    I am interested in adding a Nordic +2 Tube Extension to my Benelli SuperNova. I know that changing the magazine to increase capacity requires that the shotgun meet the 922R regulation which requires that it can have no more than 10 of the imported parts listed.

    After looking through the searches, I have come up with 12 or 13 imported parts for the SuperNova

    Does this sound right for the SuperNova?
    1. Receiver
    2. Barrel
    3. Bolt
    4. Bolt carrier
    5. Gas piston ****(does this count on the Supernova)
  • #2
    triggs75
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 1835

    The part bolded below is stating any shotgun. That is it, some threads/posts say semi only and others have stated all shotguns as stated in the 922R.


    Title 18 of the US Code (18 USC), Chapter 44 Section 922.
    Section 922 Paragraph R states:

    "It shall be unlawful for any person to assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun which is identical to any rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) of this chapter as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes except that this subsection shall not apply to--
    (1) the assembly of any such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or agency thereof or to any State or any department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or
    (2) the assembly of any such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Attorney General. "

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    • #3
      Stewdabaker23
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 2309

      The supernova is a pump, 922r applies to semi-auto.
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      • #4
        triggs75
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 1835

        Originally posted by Stewdabaker23
        The supernova is a pump, 922r applies to semi-auto.
        Can you show where it says that. In the post right above that I posted it states any shotgun.

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        • #5
          HK35
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 746

          Title 18 of the US Code (18 USC), Chapter 44 Section 922.
          Section 922 Paragraph R states: "...to assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun..."

          The code does not seem to apply to upgrading parts from a complete (factory assembled) shotgun/semi-auto rifle.
          Last edited by HK35; 07-24-2013, 2:14 PM.

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          • #6
            triggs75
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 1835

            Originally posted by HK35
            Title 18 of the US Code (18 USC), Chapter 44 Section 922.
            Section 922 Paragraph R states: "...to assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun..."

            The code does not seem to apply to upgrading parts from a complete (factory assembled) shotgun/semi-auto rifle.
            I am extending the mag capacity from 5 to 7 so it is more then upgrading the part and that is what bring in the 922R compliance. On the line you pulled it states "any Shotgun", not sure where it states semi only.

            Thanks for the help, just want to make sure I am ok.

            Chad

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            • #7
              Stewdabaker23
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 2309

              As far as I can tell it only applies to semi-autos. 922r is a very stupid, confusing law and no one had ever been charged with it.

              I have a Benelli supernova tactical with mag extension and even if it falls under 922r, I could careless.
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              • #8
                HK35
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 746

                Originally posted by triggs75
                I am extending the mag capacity from 5 to 7 so it is more then upgrading the part and that is what bring in the 922R compliance. On the line you pulled it states "any Shotgun", not sure where it states semi only.

                Thanks for the help, just want to make sure I am ok.

                Chad
                I guess I wasn't clear, I was trying to say that 922r does NOT apply to upgrading factory assembled shotguns.

                The language is clear that it was intended for assembly of a shotgun/rifle from imported parts. So if you you start with a parts kit then 922r applies.

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                • #9
                  Vertigofirearms
                  Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 430

                  Originally posted by Stewdabaker23
                  922r is a very stupid, confusing law and no one had ever been charged with it.
                  Just because no one has been charged, doesn't take away from the fact it is still a law.
                  Originally posted by SBCZILLA (ARFCOM)
                  Its a ****in tube, one end capped, one end threaded. Dont over think it.

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                  • #10
                    triggs75
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1835

                    Originally posted by HK35
                    I guess I wasn't clear, I was trying to say that 922r does NOT apply to upgrading factory assembled shotguns.

                    The language is clear that it was intended for assembly of a shotgun/rifle from imported parts. So if you you start with a parts kit then 922r applies.
                    Interesting. So on my sks I upgraded the stock from its factory assembled stock and had to comply with 922r. Guess I am not understanding. Oh well.

                    I am going to replace the hammer, follower and stock to all US parts. I prefer to be safe then sorry.

                    Supposedly the geissele M4 hammer will work, I will update later to see if it does or does not.

                    Since I got the non pistol grip supernova, I will replace the stock with the mesa tactical urbino stock

                    And for the follower I am not sure either the Nordic or the dmw. I had read possible issues or concerns on both. Anybody use either of these to help me decide?

                    Thanks, chad

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                    • #11
                      yoteassasin
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 2634

                      HEY, CHAD,!
                      are you kidding me! QUIT MAKING UP LAWS WITH BS INTERPRITATIONS
                      please be normal and chill out

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                      • #12
                        zhyla
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2017

                        Well first you need to know what is prohibited by 925(d)(3):

                        Originally posted by USC 925(d)
                        (3) is of a type that does not fall within the definition of a firearm as defined in section 5845(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and is generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes, excluding surplus military firearms, except in any case where the Attorney General has not authorized the importation of the firearm pursuant to this paragraph, it shall be unlawful to import any frame, receiver, or barrel of such firearm which would be prohibited if assembled; or
                        It's maybe worth verifying but I'm going out on a limb and saying any imported non-military surplus shotgun must be exempt from the above to make it into the country. So it doesn't automatically trigger 922r unless you're modifying it to be "identical to any rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation" by the above. Is there a Supernova which is prohibited from import which is "identical" (I think they mean functionally identical) to what you are building? If not then you're fine.

                        I'm not a 922r expert so take that with plenty of salt. And as it turns out laws that are never enforced/enforceable don't matter that much.

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                        • #13
                          triggs75
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1835

                          Originally posted by yoteassasin
                          HEY, CHAD,!
                          are you kidding me! QUIT MAKING UP LAWS WITH BS INTERPRITATIONS
                          please be normal and chill out
                          Thanks for the info. For a second I thought the 922R was real.

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