Home Dfeenxe - Rack or Don't Rack Action

[Utha Schleigle]

http://youtu.be/zrGrRIojnAs

An interesting video - I thunk this has some merit for home defense. At the least the video will start one thinking about what the stragegy of your home defense plan. Also from a MD Doctor /// the perspective of INTRUDER's mind state on difeerent druggs VERSES your "sane logical" brain decision make-ing is also eye openning.



I feel don't rack. I am also in favor of bayonets on the shotgun.



OK so WVHAT IS MY PLANN.

If there is time ???? - get loaded shotgun - call 911 - announxe police are called and change position - if any intruder around I will not approuch or try to capture intruder jyst incourrage intruder to JUST GET OUT!!!! - if intruder hesitates or attacks I will shoot until he is stopped as a threat. AGAIN if there is TIME. If I can see the intruder in the same room as me, then I must defend myself insantly, because 1 or 3 intrusers are only 15 tp 5 feet away ftom hurting or killing me.


This is too close for comfront for me.

Wvat do you gentlemen and ladies think

[kellyhachihachi]

Im gonna blast at whatever door i feel like someone is behind! and let a few ring off into the ceiling hahah

[RonnieP]

At home, carry a handgun on you at all times. Anyone breaks in, you won't have time to go to your safe to grab your gun.

If you live alone, yeah, stay put in your bedroom and cover door while the police are on there way is a good idea.

If you have family, staying put isn't an option if your kid's room is on the other side of the house.

[negolien]

Meh

"I' am also in favor of bayonets on the shotgun"
Spend much time in the off topic section?

To address part of your troll er I mean post. The way a person defends him/herself is a personal choice. The action plan will be different in a great number of cases. The two most common are Condition 1...Sneak up behind em and blast em types and Condition three standard defense plans which consist of a door shut between you and the intruder (the action plan of a parent tends to be much more complicated) Dialing 911 to advise them of an intruder. Taking a good position of cover. Calling out the fact you have 911 on the phone, racking the slide and warning you are willing to use deadly force if necessary. This action plan tends to yield the most cases of fleeing intruders as most 911 calls regarding intruders in the home result in police arriving with 3-5 minutes depending on how far the LEO's are from your location. Along with the fact most burglars don't want to deal with home owners much less armed ones.

[Kokopelli]

I always liked this line from the movie "Silverado"; "I don't want to kill you and you don't want to be dead."

[DBADRAT]

Don't have time to rack, safety off and pull the trigger. If someone can call 911 it needs to be someone else in the home, not the HD gun holder.

[Bill Steele]

Get an alarm.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

I think the overblown idea of thugs just wetting their pants and surrendering to the sound of a racking shotgun is Hollywood nonsense.

[mjmagee67]

Dfeenxe spelling?

[PayThePrice]

I normally use my .45 for HD, but my Mossberg 500 is normally trigger pulled, safety off. Either can be racked and put into condition one very quickly. That being said my house stays locked, so if the dogs sound the alarm or if I see something I can go to condition one before they make it into the house.

[jurrd87]

HD weapon is Condition 1 at all times... You cannot guarantee that their will be time to call police or chamber a round, so play it safe and leave one chambered!!!

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[hermosabeach]

I would just open my safe - have my wife lock me inside- and let her defend the house and the kids bedrooms.

OP - serious question- how many adult beverages were consumed before this posting???

[bruss01]

I think the overblown idea of thugs just wetting their pants and surrendering to the sound of a racking shotgun is Hollywood nonsense.

Agreed. And I would not deliberately rack a shotgun just to get that effect, or plan on doing only that and not following up with other action as warranted.

I typically have a handgun within arms reach when I am at home. These are all kept in condition 1 (chamber full, action cocked, safety - if any - engaged).

At the bedside I keep a long gun, a Mossberg 590. Unlike the handguns, it is kept in "cruiser ready" condition - loaded, chamber empty, safety off. This is for a couple of reasons. First, I'm a sound sleeper and I tend to wake up groggy. A series of fine motor skills needed to bring a gun into active duty does not mesh well with that fact about me, if something goes down in the middle of the night. However, from shooting skeet I have a very developed instinct to rack the gun before pulling the trigger - it's a reflex for me. Because the shotgun is not stored "put away" but is instead leaned up in the corner, I feel a lot safer knowing that the trigger is not going to be accidentally activated by one of our dogs, by something falling that happens to catch on it (a piece of laundry or who knows what). GRAB-RACK-BANG is a very simple series of gross motor skills that I feel competent and comfortable in performing to bring the gun into action.

Some say - "racking the shotgun will give away your position" - and to this I say GOOD! I am not trying to creep up on the bad guy to try to kill him. I am not trying to ambush anybody. I just want him to go away, and to know that if he comes in our bedroom he will be leaving in a bag. I will be yelling and hollering "Go away! Don't come in here! We called the cops! I have a gun!" and I'm fairly sure that will "give away my position" anyway. Racking the shotgun simply provides convincing backup to my claims of having a gun.

I think that sometimes people think that racking noise will scare away an intruder and they won't actually have to fire, and this makes them feel better about having a gun - thinking they won't actually have to shoot someone. That is absolutely the wrong mental attitude and it can get people killed. Sure, it can happen that way... but people on bath salts or whatever drug-insanity-du-jour happens to be can be so out of it that they wouldn't care if they were walking the railroad tracks and a locomotive bellowed in their ear.

Again, I don't advocate my practice as a "one size fits all" that I would shove down anyone else's throat. But this is what works for me, and makes sense in my position. And I sleep well at night knowing that I have thought it through and made the best choices I can for our situation.

[caoboy]

HD weapon is Condition 1 at all times... You cannot guarantee that their will be time to call police or chamber a round, so play it safe and leave one chambered!!!

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What about with a semi auto shotgun? I leave mine with an empty chamber, shell sitting in the lifter, full mag tube. Something about it being semi auto (subconsciously) makes me want to leave it unchambered for safety.

The pump I have is chambered and ready to go.

I also wake up groggy, and I think that is playing on my decision to leave the semi unchambered, but one rack of the action and it'll be ready to fire.

[madjack956]

Im gonna blast at whatever door i feel like someone is behind! and let a few ring off into the ceiling hahah

If I'm not mistaken, isn't that the Uncle Joe method?