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  • roger1022
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 2008

    Shotgun Question: Thoughts/Opinions?

    Was at Turner's today and while browsing the rack I noticed some shotgun on sale.

    The choices were:

    -Remington 870 Express Tactical
    -Benelli Super Nova Tactical

    I went ahead and put down a deposit on the Benelli.

    After getting home and talking to buddy #1 (a big firearms enthusiasts) and he said Benelli, good choice. Talked to anther buddy and said get the Remington since parts and accessories are easier to find (also in the event of a SHTF event). He strongly urged me to change my mind.

    I'm not a fan of the Freedom Group or their politics so I don't want to give them any more money. However my second buddy kept saying I should get the 870 over and over again.

    Was thinking of getting a Mossberg 590A1 but I don't recall seeing any.

    So is the Super Nova a good choice. Or should I have gotten the Remington instead or wait for a Mossberg?

    Thanks!
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  • #2
    11011500a
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 940

    The 870 was a great gun, but not anymore. A while back looking to add a 2nd 870 but walked out with a pair of Mossbergs. It feels & looks cheap, the problems folks are having with them is not worth the name.

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    • #3
      NapalmCheese
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2011
      • 5953

      Don't buy an 870 Express. If you want an 870 get a used Wingmaster, then you're not giving money to Freedom group and you'll be getting a good shotgun.

      The Benelli is great. I use a Nova as my duck gun. The barrels are expensive unless you get a Carlson's, which would allow you to use the gun for more than just sitting in the corner waiting for a robber to break into your house. I prefer the skinny wrist of the 870 however, and the fact that the 870 is a 3 inch chamber instead of a 3.5 inch chamber is a major bonus for this short armed guy.

      If the S hits the F do you really think you're going to be scrounging around for parts for your 870? I don't know what kind of S you think is going to hit the F, but the most likely scenario of you fending for yourself and possibly keeping looters at bay following a large natural disaster doesn't really fit in with the 'if it breaks I can find parts for it' idea (unless you have the parts on hand).

      Other than that pick the one you like to look at more, since that's most of what people do with their tactical shotguns, along with the occasional course or watermelon exploding BLM trip. I know mine sits in the shotlocker unless I'm practicing getting it unlocked.
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      • #4
        lewdogg21
        Cattle Thieves Pro Staff
        • May 2009
        • 10369

        Napalm stated it pretty well.
        Originally posted by jmonte35
        Disagree. Been trying to teach lewdogg21 how to hunt. It's like trying to teach Steve Wonder how to see. Not sure we're ever going to get there.
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        • #5
          dlquinn71
          Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 409

          I stick with the Nova. Its a well built shotgun by a great company.
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          • #6
            far from tactical
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 1381

            And it begins

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            • #7
              Bert Gamble
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 3230

              I just attended a course where a few people had 870's that were modified by Vang Comp. They were light and accurate. I am considering getting one when I don't want the weight of the M4.
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              • #8
                Bsandoc40
                CGSSA Coordinator
                • Jan 2013
                • 2413

                Originally posted by jessegpresley
                Remington 870. It's much more versatile, and almost infinitely customizable.
                ... Mossberg 500 would come a close second...
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                • #9
                  zfields
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 13658

                  There are plenty of Nova part's out there, they just tend to be made by higher end / specialty producers.
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                  • #10
                    damon1272
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 4857

                    With the potential for a Presidential restriction on Imported guns I would go with the remington. I would stay away from the express though as I have seen them jam up under hard use. Stay with the wingmaster. Benelli makes a great gun but I would be somewhat cautious due to import potential restrictions.

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                    • #11
                      aippi
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2302

                      Being there is only one 870 and every single part in the Wingmaster is the exact same part as in the Express except one, I am amazed at the mis-information being given on these forums. Any question like this brings out opinions and little in the way of facts as few people, including me know both models inside and out. I do however know the 870 and doubt there is a better pump being made today, different yes, but better, NO.
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                      • #12
                        loophole
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 2782

                        Another thing to consider:

                        If you had bought the 870, you could join in on the hundreds of threads that discuss "my 870 won't extract" or "my 870 jammed" or "I had to bang my 870 on the ground to get it to open". Also, you can get a quick primer on gunsmithing, learning how to disassemble your brand new shotgun and work on it so it won't jam, even though it should have come from the factory that way. Oh, I know, the ammo is to blame. It's just that all other shotguns are built to fire any ammo that's given to them. You want a shotgun that only performs with the best - kinda like a car that will only run on Premium.

                        Last but not least: if you had bought an 870 and performed all the necessary modifications to make it do what it should have done in the first place, you can always lay awake those sleepless nights and ponder whether or not it will eff up again when you're trying to defend yourself or someone you love.

                        Or, you can take the shotgun you bought and just go shoot it.

                        Of course, that's just one man's opinion.

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                        • #13
                          ronrichards64
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 790

                          My 1st shotgun was a 870 wingmaster ,Sold it and regetted it, Bought a stripped recever ,wingmaster , added express trigger and bolt .wood stk, 18.5 bar, will not sell this ever, bought a Mossberg 500a 20 inch for backup. My friend likes his Nova.The 870 is one of the greatest shotguns ever made.

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                          • #14
                            negolien
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 4829

                            Really easy choice

                            It really depends on the use. The Nova is a great shotgun for skeet, trap and hunting. While the 870 is obviously a defense gun... as for these 870's suck posts...Look at what the Police Cruisers have in their racks and tell me what gun you see there. It sure aint a Mossberg. I do however think there's a good alternative to the Remington though and that is the Hawk 982. This shotgun is pretty much the old 870 imho. It's a very well made and durable home defense weapon.

                            It still comes down to what you want to use it for.

                            Defense= Remington 870 or 870 clone... Hawk 982.

                            Sporting shotgun = Can't beat the Nova for diversity...it will eat any load you feed it along with mixed loads.

                            Looking for a best of both worlds gun?? Get the Mossberg combo.
                            Last edited by negolien; 04-27-2013, 8:52 PM. Reason: spelling
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                            • #15
                              NapalmCheese
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 5953

                              Originally posted by negolien
                              It really depends on the use. The Nova is a great shotgun for skeet, trap and hunting. While the 870 is obviously a defense gun... as for these 870's suck posts...
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