California Long Gun Gifting

[Beachman66]

I live in New York State and going to visit my sister & brother-in-law in
San Francisco. They want to "give" me 2 shotguns they no longer want.
My intent is to take possession and then ship via UPS to a FFL dealer
in New York State to complete the transfer. What is the "process" and
paperwork I have to follow in California to accomplish this?

[Chaos47]

Sister and brother-in-law do not count as an interfamily transfer in CA.
Only up and down, Dad to Child, Child to Dad, Grandpa to Grandchild etc. So this would need an FFL.
Second you are out of state which would also require an FFL.

You need to both go to an FFL here in CA do paperwork and have them ship it to your FFL in NY.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Transferring_Firearms_Among_Some_Family_Members#Interstate_Intrafamily_transfers_need_FFL_located_in_CA

[Beachman66]

If I don't take possession of the guns in California...can my sister ship the long guns herself to my FFL in New York State, without her going through an FFL in California?

[chillincody]

If I don't take possession of the guns in California...can my sister ship the long guns herself to my FFL in New York State, without her going through an FFL in California?

some FFLs dont take shipments of guns from non FFLs so you would have to find a dealer in NY that would be willing to take the shipment from your sis (non FFL)

far as having to come to a CA FFLI dont see why you would since your a NY resident but maybe chaos will explain if im wrong

[Chaos47]

He stated he was coming to CA to get them and he wanted to "take possession and then ship".
Taking possession of them at that point would be an illegal transfer.
He can not take possession of them from his sister without an FFL for the 2 reasons I listed.

He can go to the FFL with his sister and have the transfer started and shipped to his FFL.
Or his sister can go to an FFL and have it sent to his FFL.
Or if his FFL will take a shipment from a Non-FFL then his sister can ship it to his FFL.

[chillincody]

He stated he was coming to CA to get them and he wanted to "take possession and then ship".
Taking possession of them at that point would be an illegal transfer.
He can not take possession of them from his sister without an FFL for the 2 reasons I listed.

He can go to the FFL with his sister and have the transfer started and shipped to his FFL.
Or his sister can go to an FFL and have it sent to his FFL.
Or if his FFL will take a shipment from a Non-FFL then his sister can ship it to his FFL.

Ok that makes sense

[Beachman66]

Thanks much for the answers...very helpful

[bigbully]

I thought only handguns required FFL to FFL transfer. Couldn't his sister just ship the long guns directly to the FFL herself? (Assuming the NY FFL will accept from private party.)

[Quiet]

I thought only handguns required FFL to FFL transfer. Couldn't his sister just ship the long guns directly to the FFL herself? (Assuming the NY FFL will accept from private party.)

There are no Federal or state laws that mandate FFL to FFL shipping only.

Therefore, it is up to the individual FFL to determine if they will accept a shipment from a non-FFL or from FFLs only.

[bigbully]

Ah. I see now I was just confusing it with the restrictions that USPS has. Common and contract carriers are ok to ship handguns.