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  • Outdoors870
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 8

    Beretta A300 problems

    I am new to semi auto shotguns and have experience with O/U's and pumps. I recently purchased an A300 based on reviews largely and intend to use for clay sports and hunting. I took it home and cleaned it, probably not perfect (in full disclosure) but what I thought was good by following the owner’s manual. I did not remove the trigger group.

    Went today to shoot it for the first time at 5 stand. I shot Sellier & Bellot 2 3/4, 1 1/8, 7 1/2, brass. This was all I could find, everywhere in my county was sold out. I fired 30 shells in first round of 5 stand. Zero ejected. On all of them I had to pull hard on the bolt about 3-5 times to get it to open and extract the spent shell. I was loading 2 shells at a time. After the first 2 stations I only loaded 1 shell at a time.

    I was frustrated. There was a very nice gentleman shooting there who went above and beyond helping me, he gave me different shells to try (Winchester) and had me go buy some oil (i had none on me) and we oiled and re-assembled everything very thoroughly (except trigger group) and went to try another round. He owns a 3901 among other high end O/U’s and seemed very knowledgeable and agreed i should be good now and that perhaps i cleaned it poorly when i first got it. I won’t argue that.

    Second round of 5 stand. ~30 shots fired and I only had one eject, even with his shells. Otherwise exact same issue, had to pull multiple times on bolt to open so I could pull out shell by hand.

    I spoke to pro shop at range and several other folks there and all agreed that was not usual behavior. The gentleman that was helping me said it seemed to have trouble “extracting” and was highly unusual.

    I called the place where I bought it brand new last week and they said, sorry but I’d have to deal with Beretta directly.

    Now typically I’d be very upset, and I am, but I am trying to be reasonable here. Do I just call Beretta on Monday and hope they have good customer service and just make this right at no further cost to me?

    I thought this would be a good gun for my needs and I know some jams on a new gun is expected but 1 ejection (and it did not chamber 2nd shot) out of 60 shots regardless of shell specifics seems very wrong to me.

    Please let me know if you have any thoughts and thanks.
    Last edited by Outdoors870; 01-19-2013, 11:13 PM.
  • #2
    Meety Peety
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 3216

    Will the gun cycle unfired ammo properly? Will it cycle the spent round properly when you manually pull the bolt? In other words, does the extractor seem to be broken or is it a cycling issue? Does the gun attempt to cycle at all or does it function more like a single shot?

    This almost sounds like what happens when you over tighten the barrel nut on a pump.. although didn't Beretta change the design of theirs specifically for that reason? Anyway, you could loosen it up and tighten it back up (finger tight, don't crank on it) to make sure that isn't causing the issue (I doubt it is). This is about the only thing I can think of that you may have done to a brand new gun to cause a problem.. and if you didn't cause it, I'd return it.

    This is certainly not normal behavior, nor does it sound like you've done anything to cause it.. so in my opinion this shotgun needs to be returned and exchanged, since it doesn't sound like it was a faulty part that broke over time and it seems like they sold it to you DOA. IMO it should be on the retailer to exchange the gun and RTV the broken gun on their own time and money. If they won't do this, I'm more than sure Beretta will take care of it for you, but it will take longer and may or may not cost shipping on your end.
    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." - Albert Einstein

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    • #3
      swifty
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 929

      Do you have the old A300, or the newer A300 Outlander?

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      • #4
        Outdoors870
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 8

        Thanks, I did try backing off the nut multiple times. I think it is a cycling issue? When i pull on the bolt multiple times it will then open and i need to reach in and grab the shell. I think it attempts to cycle, it did one time, and a handful of times the bolt came back a quarter inch or so but most of the time the bolt did not move.
        Last edited by Outdoors870; 01-19-2013, 11:17 PM. Reason: adding content

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        • #5
          Outdoors870
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 8

          Originally posted by swifty
          Do you have the old A300, or the newer A300 Outlander?
          Outlander

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          • #6
            shinerbok
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 3

            I just got a new A300 Outlander and I am having the same issue with light loads. I just got some AA heavy loads, but haven't shot them. Did you ever find a solution?

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            • #7
              canopis
              Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 288

              Originally posted by shinerbok
              I just got a new A300 Outlander and I am having the same issue with light loads. I just got some AA heavy loads, but haven't shot them. Did you ever find a solution?
              I read somewhere that you should break in the Outlander with heavier loads first, and then light loads will cycle more reliably. Anyway, I just ordered an Outlander, so I'm also curious to know what happened with the OP's gun.
              Last edited by canopis; 04-14-2013, 3:47 PM. Reason: typos
              I am not a lawyer, so my dribbles are not legal advice.

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              • #8
                varmintshooter
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 89

                I have a Beretta A300 Outlander and while I have never had a single issue so far in over 1000 rounds it seems to me like I remember when I initially put the barrel on and tightened up the nut, somehow i managed to way over tighten it. This caused the bolt to feel like it was "stuck" in the chamber.

                Are you sure that this is not what is happening?

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                • #9
                  goldduster
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 161

                  Another issue could be a "plugged up" gas valve. Check the manual and make sure it is clear.

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                  • #10
                    shinerbok
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 3

                    Sent for service

                    Originally posted by shinerbok
                    I just got a new A300 Outlander and I am having the same issue with light loads. I just got some AA heavy loads, but haven't shot them. Did you ever find a solution?
                    I shoot in a skeet league and shot 1300 and 1350 2 3/4 rounds and still it now stove pipes 90% of the time. I contacted Beretta and they are servicing the gun.

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                    • #11
                      ssilver88
                      Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 490

                      EXACT same thing happened to mine. I sent it in to Berreta and they replaced a nut on the gas valve and it has fired flawlessly ever since.

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                      • #12
                        jkcerda
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 9230

                        Mine HAD that issue my first time out, cycled flawlessly this Saturday, no FTF FTE at all, I did clean it up pretty good before I shot it this time

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                        • #13
                          shinerbok
                          Junior Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 3

                          Originally posted by ssilver88
                          EXACT same thing happened to mine. I sent it in to Berreta and they replaced a nut on the gas valve and it has fired flawlessly ever since.
                          Sean I have a feeling that is my problem too.

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                          • #14
                            Jhsf009
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 11

                            Picked up my A300 Outlander on Friday and took it to sporting clays on Sunday... Same exact problem. Tried various different 2 3/4" shells. Different brands and different loads. EVERY single one FTE'ed. We adjusted the barrel nut in both directions as well... No joy.

                            It functioned so poorly that one range marshal questioned whether it was 2 3/4" compatible or not.

                            I plan on contacting Beretta ASAP. Does anyone have the phone number handy?

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                            • #15
                              triggs75
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1835

                              Yeah I read this thread last week and was hoping mine would be ok and it was. I just picked mine up on Thursday and did some sporting clays on Saturday. I have to say it was in my mind the entire drive up there and through the first couple of clays.

                              Sorry to hear about the troubles, but at least it sounds like they will take care of you and have it back to you pretty quickly. Keep us posted.

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