picking up and transporting laws?

[toyotech]

will be picking up my shotgun soon. it was a private party transfer. they have just the shotgun with no case or locks. what will i need to bring to be able to transport it from the store to my vehicle and back home? thanks in advance

[whyhatchu]

A lockable container. Just put those little locks over the 2 zipper tabs

[Chaos47]

To transfer it the shop will require you to buy a lock or sign a safe affidavit.

You should pick up a case.
There are Allen ones for like 10 bucks.

Or at the very least a cardboard box or a trash bag to carry it to your car. While it might not be brandishing someone still might call the cops...

Transport it unloaded.
Technically as a long gun it does not have to be locked up when transporting.
But it is a good idea in case you go thru a school zone and to keep prying eyes out.

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

[Zeva]

I thought that the law was changed this year and long guns need to be locked now?

[toyotech]

ok so i have a case with three lock holes. will i need to lock all three or just zip tie two and a single lock in the middle. so in order to bring it out from the store. lock it up and throw it in my trunk (wagon) with a cargo cover.

[Quiet]

I thought that the law was changed this year and long guns need to be locked now?

The law [PC 26405(c)] requires a rifle, shotgun or other firearm to be "encased" [PC 16505] or in a "locked container" [PC 16850].

Encased = in a firearm container that is closed. [PC 16505]



Penal Code 26400
(a) A person is guilty of carrying an unloaded firearm that is not a handgun in an incorporated city or city and county when that person carries upon his or her person an unloaded firearm that is not a handgun outside a vehicle while in the incorporated city or city and county.

Penal Code 26405
Section 26400 does not apply to, or affect, the carrying of an unloaded firearm that is not a handgun in any of the following circumstances:
(c) When the firearm is either in a locked container or encased and it is being transported directly between places where a person is not prohibited from possessing that firearm and the course of travel shall include only those deviations between authorized locations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

Penal Code 16505
For purposes of Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 26400) of Division 5 of Title 4, a firearm is “encased” when that firearm is enclosed in a case that is expressly made for the purpose of containing a firearm and that is completely zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened with no part of that firearm exposed.

Penal Code 16850
As used in Sections 17740, 23925, 25105, 25205, and 25610, in Article 3 (commencing with Section 25505) of Chapter 2 of Division 5 of Title 4, in Chapter 6 (commencing with Section 26350) of Division 5 of Title 4, and in Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 26400) of Division 5 of Title 4, “locked container” means a secure container that is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, keylock, combination lock, or similar locking device. The term “locked container” does not include the utility or glove compartment of a motor vehicle.

[toyotech]

thank you. im not that great at decoding those penal codes.
so far i have a case made for a firearm. i will bring a lock since i dont have a trunk that is a "locked container"

[Erion929]

Well, from PC26405 and PC16505, since it is a shotgun, it seems it just needs to be " completely zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened with no part of that firearm exposed".

[paratroop]

Whoa! is this new stuff?

[toyotech]

this kinda help. thanks for the help

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting

[donkin]

from what it says a long gun doesnt have to be locked while in the vehicle, just once outside the vehicle.

ive always wondered what you would do in california if you had a round that was stuck in the chamber while out shooting. you would be transporting a loaded weapon. reason i say this is i have had a round get jammed up in my pistol and was afraid i wouldnt be able to get it out before.

[paratroop]

Penal Code 26405
Section 26400 does not apply to, or affect, the carrying of an unloaded firearm that is not a handgun in any of the following circumstances:
(c) When the firearm is either in a locked container or encased and it is being transported directly between places where a person is not prohibited from possessing that firearm and the course of travel shall include only those deviations between authorized locations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.


Ok so this has nothing to do with inside a vehicle, right? I am glad I got back on calguns recently, I didnt realize the "open carry" of long guns has changed. so do you think I could be charged if my garage door is open and I am cleaning/fixing/building/packing/etc. my long guns? Does this mean I have to keep my garage door closed?

[donkin]

yeah from what the law says, ok to transport a long gun that is not in a case. you just need a case when you are outside of the vehicle with it.

i doubt you would have to keep your garage door closed, but for me i wouldn't want to advertise to passers by or your neighbors that you have guns for fear someone might want to break in and take them.

if i lived in california i would buy a hard shelled pelican case and double padlock it when transporting, just to cover myself with all those crazy laws and how police may or may not interpret them.

[Quiet]

Whoa! is this new stuff?

The ban on the unloaded open carry of long guns went into effect 01-01-2013.

Ok so this has nothing to do with inside a vehicle, right? I am glad I got back on calguns recently, I didnt realize the "open carry" of long guns has changed. so do you think I could be charged if my garage door is open and I am cleaning/fixing/building/packing/etc. my long guns? Does this mean I have to keep my garage door closed?

If you do not have a fence to prevent people from walking up to your garage, then keep the garage door closed.

If the public can gain access, can't have it exposed.

It now needs to follow the same rules for carrying a loaded firearm on private property. So, it's only legal on the parts of the property that the public can not gain access to.

[kurby09]

thank you. im not that great at decoding those penal codes.
so far i have a case made for a firearm. i will bring a lock since i dont have a trunk that is a "locked container"

Good idea. Being that you have a Wagon, you must have the firearm in a locked containter and unloaded.

Congrats on your new acquired shotgun as well.