Benelli M4 legal in cali?

[rue]

Is the M4 legal here?

[Hitman]

Yup!

I have one.

[SunriseF150]

I have one too!

[Jicko]

Is the M4 legal here?

Yah. The Benelli one is. The Colt one is NOT.

Once in a blue moon, you may see it @ Turners.

[USN CHIEF]

It cannot have the folding stock for it to be legal in CA right?

[Jicko]

It cannot have the folding stock for it to be legal in CA right?

NO i dun think so.

Pistol grip + telescoping stock + semiauto = NO NO.

[USN CHIEF]

NO i dun think so.

Pistol grip + telescoping stock + semiauto = NO NO.

Yeah, I had my head up my butt when I asked this question... Thanks for getting squared away...

[gose]

Adding telescoping stock (w pistol grip) -> Potential California felony
Adding mag extension -> Potential Federal felony

As long as you stay away from those two, you're good to go.

[aplinker]

There's a helluva lot of confusion over the idea of the mag extension being a felony. Suffice to say, no one has been arrested, and the Benelli team shooters use them with extensions.

If you want to be 100% sure you're safe you can swap parts to play the 922(r) game.

Also, in CA AW law semi-auto shotguns are allowed EITHER a PG or a collapsing stock, but not both.

[FatOnCoke]

Adding telescoping stock (w pistol grip) -> Guarantee California felony

Add a US made mag extension should be fine.

[Mesa Tactical]

Adding telescoping stock (w pistol grip) -> Guarantee California felony

Add a US made mag extension should be fine.

Doesn't matter where the magazine extension is made, it may still be a 922(r) violation.

[mymonkeyman]

There's a helluva lot of confusion over the idea of the mag extension being a felony. Suffice to say, no one has been arrested, and the Benelli team shooters use them with extensions.

If you want to be 100% sure you're safe you can swap parts to play the 922(r) game.

Also, in CA AW law semi-auto shotguns are allowed EITHER a PG or a collapsing stock, but not both.

I don't see how, for a shotgun, playing 922(r) makes any sense. The Federal DD statute says that all shotguns are DD unless the Treasury Secretary (delegated to the ATF) determines they are particularly suitable for sporting purposes. The ATF has interpreted this to be the same standard of sporting purposes as 922(r) (see the ATF ruling on the Striker, Streetsweeper, and SPAS). If that is the case, if your shotgun is non-sporting, it doesn't matter how many parts you replace, you are still f*ed because you have a DD. Now for some reason, ATF may decide to rule only prospectively with regards to classification as a DD, but nothing requires it to do so. Now both of these assume how the ATF classifies "sporting purposes" is compliant with the relevant statutes, the APA, and the due process clause, which may not be the case, but you sure don't want to have to wait to get to trial to effectively "prove" your innocence.

With the telescoping stock, it could be legal if it was permanently made non-telescoping.

[Mesa Tactical]

With the telescoping stock, it could be legal if it was permanently made non-telescoping.

The Benelli M4 stock collapses only if the recoil spring housing is machined for it. We bought an M4 a few years ago with an ordinary fixed pistol grip buttstock and when we removed the stock we noticed the recoil spring tube was machined to accept the M1014 stock, but not to allow it to collapse. We have a couple M1014 stocks and they are perfectly legal on our particular M4:



That buttstock does not collapse, and will never do so as the recoil spring tube is not machined to allow it.

[yallknowho]

when my parts get made you'll be able to sport a mag extension legally.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=75515

[ar15barrels]

when my parts get made you'll be able to sport a mag extension legally.

TWO WEEKS right.