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  • gun toting monkeyboy
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2008
    • 6820

    Improvised "Tactical" Buckshot

    So I was bored, and sitting at the reloading bench. Never a good situation. I was looking at a jar of hand-cast lead single-ought (0) buckshot, and thinking about what I could do with it. They measured .320" in diameter, and were left over from an experiment I did a while back for research. Anyway, I found a couple of older boxes of Federal multi-puropose loads, the cheap ones they sell at Walmart, and pulled the 7 1/2 shot from them. They had a 1 1/8oz load and a 3 dram equivalent of powder. I put 6 pellets of 0 buck in each shell, in 2 layers of 3. They needed to be tamped down, but held themselves in place after they were wedged in. I reclosed the cases, and poof! I was done. The only tool I used was a small screw driver. I finally got out to the range today. Here are the results for 7, 12 and 20 yards:

    7 yards



    12 yards (approximately)


    20 yards


    What was interesting is that at all ranges, the pellets seemed to hit in a pattern. It isn't as visable in these pictures, but when I did multiple shots at the same distance, they would consistantly "cluster" pellets in the same areas of the target. (e.g. each one would put one pellet in at about 1 o'clock from the point of aim, 1 at about 4 o'clock, etc...) I don't know why the 12 yard target spread as much as it did, but the 20 yard shot seemed to be a tighter pattern. Maybe a bad loading on my part. The recoil was very, very low. Maybe about half that of the unmodified loads. That is to be expected with the lightened payload. I will have to chronograph these some time to see what they are moving at. But considering that the standard load with 7 1/2 shot has a muzzle velocity of about 1200 fps, I would guess that these are doing at least that. Another thing I found interesting is that even with the extra space in the shot cup, the pellets stayed in place even under multiple recoils. I don't know exactly how useful these loads are, but it was fun. And it is nice to know that I can always convert the cheap trap loads into something a bit more effective in a pinch.

    -Mb

    (edit) One additional note: These were fired through a shotgun that had the barrel chopped down to about 23" some time in the distant past. It has no choke at all.
    Last edited by gun toting monkeyboy; 11-02-2012, 5:49 PM.
    Originally posted by aplinker
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  • #2
    cgates
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 464

    nice done this a lot for range practice. I hate using birdshot because it tears up the targets too much. Havent put mine through the chrono either so I would be interested to know what your results are on that. I think mine might be travelling slower than the original load. Did mine with 00 buck.

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    • #3
      sargenv
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4620

      If the load was 1 1/8 oz, 9 pellets of 00 buck usually weighs in at 1/8 oz per pellet, 0 buck is a bit lighter, about 9 pellets for 1 to 1 1/16 oz..

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      • #4
        gun toting monkeyboy
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2008
        • 6820

        Originally posted by sargenv
        If the load was 1 1/8 oz, 9 pellets of 00 buck usually weighs in at 1/8 oz per pellet, 0 buck is a bit lighter, about 9 pellets for 1 to 1 1/16 oz..
        Yeah. I wanted to go lighter to reduce recoil. Besides, 9 pellets didn't fit as well using the shot cup that came in the cheap shells. This was mostly trying to come up with something to do with the extra buckshot, and not breaking out the reloading press. The load ends up being roughly 3/4 oz.

        -Mb
        Originally posted by aplinker
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        • #5
          gun toting monkeyboy
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2008
          • 6820

          So, I got back to the range with an old Ithaca 37 that has a long barrel and full choke. I used the same 6 pellet load in a Federal trap shell as described above. Interestingly, the shot seemed to pattern worse with the full choke than it did with the cylinder bore. Here are the results:

          #0 buckshot, 7 yards, full choke.



          #0 buckshot, 12 yards, full choke.



          #0 buckshot, 20 yards, full choke.


          As you can see, these loads opened up significantly. The only redeeming thing was that every pattern seemed to have 2-3 pellets that hit center of mass close to the point of aim. But the flyers were much farther from the point of aim than they were without a choke. On the 20 yard shot, 2 of them didn't hit the man-sized target at all.

          -Mb
          Originally posted by aplinker
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          • #6
            gun toting monkeyboy
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2008
            • 6820

            After the disappointing results with the full choke, I decided to test the #1 buckshot load with my "social" shotgun. That is just an 870 set up with a 20" barrel, no choke, and rifle sights. It has the usual social upgrades, like a 7+1 mag extension, hi viz follower, sidesaddle shell holder, etc... It is more likely the thing that I would grab in the middle of the night anyway. The shells were made using Winchester Universal 1 1/8 ounce shells. As before, the shot was pulled, and this time I added 9 pellets of home made #1 buckshot. Each pellet weighed approximately 38 grains. The recoil was a bit more than they 6 pellet #0 buck loads above, but still less than the 1 1/8 ounce standard loads. The results were decent enough. I will likely stick with this loading for practice buckshot loads, or "tactical" shotgun shooting. In the event of zombies, lizard men, or assorted space aliens though, I would go with full-powered loads. Here are the results:

            #1 buck, 7 yards.




            #1 buck, 12 yards.



            #1 buck, 20 yards.


            It still isn't as tight as it could be. And after about 15 yards it seems to open up more than the expected 1" of spread per yard. Inside that range it is wicked. It still gets several pellets on target after that, but the flyers tend to be spread out quite a bit. I may try going with cream of wheat for buffer the next time around, but I am going to have to pay attention to the weight of the payload a bit closer when I do that. On a whole, I would call this entire experiment a success. I can make some serviceable buckshot shells out of the cheap, readily available trap and field loads. It isn't as good as purpose-made buckshot shells, but still better than bird shot in a pinch. And with the significantly reduced recoil, the 6 pellet #0 load might be useful for some of those that are recoil-shy. Truthfully I could practice with either all day. I will have to chronograph them, but I still think that they are likely moving in the 1200 fps range.

            -Mb
            Originally posted by aplinker
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            • #7
              sargenv
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 4620

              Federal makes a fortune with their "special wads" that they use for their tight patterning loads.. They are thicker wads and have special cuts that don't allow the wad to fall away as fast as a traditional 4 petal shot wad does.. the wad stays with the shot longer resulting in some very impressive patterns out to a more extended range (talking 20-25 yards or more).

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