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Ouuuu, cool! Without checking A.F., I'm guessing they're $1,000+?R.I.P. Thomas C.Originally posted by d4v0s -
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seems like AK variants are coming out faster than iPads.
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I have been waiting for this...The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile
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Does this thing have an adjustable gas port/piston like saiga 12?Comment
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Interesting. So this is the Molot version of the Saiga 12? Any big improvements over the Saiga? Seems a bit risky to enter a market with such a well established dominant shotgun already there but perhaps there is enough room for both? I LOVE the VEPR rifles, I would probably get one of these over a Saiga that I have to spend a few hundred dollars on to convert.NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer
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Saw this posted recently, very exciting!
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I like Saigas but I always welcome variety
R.I.P. Thomas C.Originally posted by d4v0sComment
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If I didn't already have a Saiga 12 I would seriously consider thisComment
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The vepr is clearly superior to the S12, but obviously that raises the price tag. From what I've read, some improvements over an IZ-109 include: self regulating gas system, magwell, integrated rail on the hinged dust cover. It may also have a last-round bolt hold open, but I'm not sure.
The magazines are currently hard to find and expensive. You can't use the traditional S12 mags.
The real question is whether enough of these will be imported to create a US market for parts and accessories. Right now S12 mags are cheap and plentiful because there are at least 3 domestic manufacturers.I reject your reality and substitute my own.Comment
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centerfire has them for pre-order for $999Comment
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Arms of America have them in stock for $999
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