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Let me start out by saying that this isn't a range report (yet). I haven't had the time to take it out. On the bright side, if there's something in particular you want me to test, or pay attention too - Now is a good time to ask. This also isn't a thread to needlessly bash the shotgun, no one cares if you think it's ugly. I'm writing this because I haven't been able to find a detailed opinion/review of the UTS.
What this is - Just a quick review of my thoughts after taking it home and cleaning it. I'm probably leaving a lot out, give me any advice or criticism you want.
UTS-15 failures:
You can pull the trigger and discharge the hammer before the bolt is locked into battery. I called UTAS on this, they very nicely told me this wasn't a problem since basically the hammer and bolt are not lined up for a strike on the firing pin. Therefore, since it's "safe", it's ok. To fix it you'll have to cycle the action again. Watch what your stepping on, those shells are live.
Sorry, but I consider this a serious design flaw.
Neither the Mossberg 590 or Remington 870 will discharge the hammer until the bolt is locked.
After taking the gun apart and thinking about it, I find myself doubting what UTAS said. The gun is a little hard to get to lock, although it does seem to be getting easier. You could therefore, hold the bolt forward in the "almost locked" position and pull the trigger. I'll let you know how that one turns out...
If you cycle the action slowly you will have a FTE. This failure occured while cycling the action with live shells, and is caused by the new shell coming down on the old one and holding it there with spring pressurre from above. I haven't tested this at the range while firing, so this could change due to the increased flexibility of a spent shell over an unspent one. The jamb is very easy to clear though, and I have yet to test this on other pump shotguns.
UTS-15 shortcomings:
For those that care, it's a little nose heavy.
After looking at this and the Kel Tec KSG 15, I think the UTS might be faster and easier to load. However, the KSG is probably faster to top off. The reason being is that if you're only topping a mag tube off on the UTS you will need to push the first two shells back behind the keeper before you can start adding new rounds (after opening the port cover).
The cheek weld sucks. It's impossible to get your face low enough to really sight down the barrel. It needs sights, likely some high ones. I'll be borrowing some BUIS from my AR to test this out.
For a whole myriad of reasons I don't want to get into at the moment, it looks more like a working prototype that should be used to refine the gun. It looks fine from the outside, but when taking it apart I just can't help but think they could have figured out much better ways to put it together.
And if someone would please tell my idiot self how to load a pic in between text, I would greatly appreciate it.
-Keith
What this is - Just a quick review of my thoughts after taking it home and cleaning it. I'm probably leaving a lot out, give me any advice or criticism you want.
UTS-15 failures:
You can pull the trigger and discharge the hammer before the bolt is locked into battery. I called UTAS on this, they very nicely told me this wasn't a problem since basically the hammer and bolt are not lined up for a strike on the firing pin. Therefore, since it's "safe", it's ok. To fix it you'll have to cycle the action again. Watch what your stepping on, those shells are live.
Sorry, but I consider this a serious design flaw.
Neither the Mossberg 590 or Remington 870 will discharge the hammer until the bolt is locked.
After taking the gun apart and thinking about it, I find myself doubting what UTAS said. The gun is a little hard to get to lock, although it does seem to be getting easier. You could therefore, hold the bolt forward in the "almost locked" position and pull the trigger. I'll let you know how that one turns out...
If you cycle the action slowly you will have a FTE. This failure occured while cycling the action with live shells, and is caused by the new shell coming down on the old one and holding it there with spring pressurre from above. I haven't tested this at the range while firing, so this could change due to the increased flexibility of a spent shell over an unspent one. The jamb is very easy to clear though, and I have yet to test this on other pump shotguns.
UTS-15 shortcomings:
For those that care, it's a little nose heavy.
After looking at this and the Kel Tec KSG 15, I think the UTS might be faster and easier to load. However, the KSG is probably faster to top off. The reason being is that if you're only topping a mag tube off on the UTS you will need to push the first two shells back behind the keeper before you can start adding new rounds (after opening the port cover).
The cheek weld sucks. It's impossible to get your face low enough to really sight down the barrel. It needs sights, likely some high ones. I'll be borrowing some BUIS from my AR to test this out.
For a whole myriad of reasons I don't want to get into at the moment, it looks more like a working prototype that should be used to refine the gun. It looks fine from the outside, but when taking it apart I just can't help but think they could have figured out much better ways to put it together.
And if someone would please tell my idiot self how to load a pic in between text, I would greatly appreciate it.
-Keith
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