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  • reddot556
    Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 455

    winchester super x2 practical

    ive got this shotgun with these sights on it




    the front isnt adjustable..only the rear..but with it bottomed out my slugs hit 1 foot high at 50 yards and still 6 or so inches high at 100 yards...help!!! what to do? thanks for any help
  • #2
    Rugerman
    Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 406

    If you can adjust for windage, maybe thats why. Either that or fiddle around with your sights a little. My friend had this sort of problem, went to Bass Pro and got a laser boresighter for $15.99 and played with his sights and finally got them adjusted.

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    • #3
      randy
      In Memoriam
      • Nov 2006
      • 4642

      lose the rail and mount the site to the receiver
      Last edited by randy; 02-11-2008, 4:01 PM.
      I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

      When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57166

        Originally posted by randy
        loose the rail and mount the site to the receiver
        This is one of those "defrost the chicken" type of answers.
        Randall Rausch

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        • #5
          Solidmch
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 1325

          Is there a mag extention for this shotgun? If so where?
          Please spay or neuter your liberals.

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          • #6
            rick1881
            Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 325

            Which choke tube are you using?
            "We gotta get out of this place if it's the last thing we ever do" The Animals 1965

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            • #7
              reddot556
              Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 455

              i think its called improved cylinder...its a invector choke...could that make a difference?..it holds 7+1 but it looks like a straight tube..no add on's

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57166

                Originally posted by reddot556
                my slugs hit 1 foot high at 50 yards and still 6 or so inches high at 100 yards...help!!! what to do? thanks for any help
                Kentucky windage.

                Assuming you have about a 24" sight radius on that shotgun and it's hitting a foot high at 50 yards, you need to lower the rear sight 0.160".
                That's about 3/16" if you don't do decimal measurements well.
                I have almost the same sight on my Benelli and 870 and it mounts directly to the receiver.
                Is there some plate that the sight is bolted down to that lets it mount on that rail?
                You need to move the sight towards the rear so it sits behind the rail.
                That's going to get it closer to your eye where it belongs AND drop it down the necessary amount.
                Last edited by ar15barrels; 02-10-2008, 9:59 AM.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #9
                  rick1881
                  Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 325

                  Originally posted by reddot556
                  i think its called improved cylinder...its a invector choke...could that make a difference?..it holds 7+1 but it looks like a straight tube..no add on's
                  You should be using a cylinder choke not an improved cylinder and rifled slugs, that might help.
                  "We gotta get out of this place if it's the last thing we ever do" The Animals 1965

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                  • #10
                    randy
                    In Memoriam
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 4642

                    Nothing wrong with shootiing slugs through an IC choke.

                    The rail is for an optic not a ghost ring sight. Assuming Randall's math is correct (I believe him) the 3/16th you need to lower the site is about the thickness of the rail.
                    Last edited by randy; 02-11-2008, 10:40 AM.
                    I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

                    When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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                    • #11
                      Sgt Raven
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 3837

                      Originally posted by randy
                      Nothing wrong with shootiing slugs through an IC choke.

                      The rail is for an optic not a ghost ring sight. Assuming Randall's math is correct (I believe him) the 3/16th you need to lower the site is about the thickness of the rail.
                      Our maybe it's because you're centering the fiber optic part of the front sight in the rear sight. If so try using the top edge of the rear sight instead.
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                      • #12
                        randy
                        In Memoriam
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 4642

                        Sgt Raven your idea is sound but you would have to put the FO in the bottom of the GR not the top to lower your POI.

                        The rail is the problem.
                        Last edited by randy; 02-11-2008, 4:03 PM.
                        I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

                        When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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                        • #13
                          allenst65
                          Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 343

                          You may want to contact PSI (LPA) and see what they say about different front sight blades.



                          "M1
                          Adjustable front sights to be used together with SG ramps. Its height adjustment is approximately 4mm (.157"). Available in 3 styles:
                          M1B- White Dot
                          M1T- Tritium Dot
                          M1F- Red Fiber Optic"

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                          • #14
                            rick1881
                            Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 325

                            Originally posted by randy
                            Nothing wrong with shootiing slugs through an IC choke.

                            The rail is for an optic not a ghost ring sight. Assuming Randall's math is correct (I believe him) the 3/16th you need to lower the site is about the thickness of the rail.
                            The sights are designed for this gun and there included in the box. As for the choke it is not recomended to use anything other than a cylinder choke tube with slugs by the mfg.
                            "We gotta get out of this place if it's the last thing we ever do" The Animals 1965

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                            • #15
                              randy
                              In Memoriam
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 4642

                              I've never heard of only shooting slugs from a Cylinder choke but if they want that then ok. I don't know anybody that uses a Cylinder choke most I know use a IC choke some use a modified. That doesn't mean anything there's alot of people that I don't know.

                              The sites came in the box and they don't work. The difference per Randalls math is about the thickness of the rail.

                              The guns I've seen with the rail and a GR site have shot high too and that was with a front site that was adjustable.
                              Last edited by randy; 02-12-2008, 6:06 PM.
                              I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

                              When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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