Pump Shotgun Legality

[shawnyteee]

Sorry I'm fairly new to shotguns and the laws behind it but I have a few questions that I would very appreciate if it was answered.

The type of gun would be a pump action remington 870 / norinco

Its 8 round max for a pump action right?

Pistol grip and stock is ok?

Would a folding stock be ok? Does anyone legally own one without AW registration?

Whats the min barrel length and whats the min. shotgun length?

Thanks in advance!!

[moulton]

remington 870 and all shotguns have a maximum capacity of 10 rounds unless you had the mag extenction before 2000....I doubt they even made a extenction over 10 rounds....too unweildy. Assault weapons can only be semi-automatic, so you can go wild with a pistol gripped, folding stocked shotgun. The only thing you have to worry about is having a barrel over 18 inches.

[shawnyteee]

:0 .... this sound soooo goooddddd.. thanks alot for the quick response

[Mesa Tactical]

remington 870 and all shotguns have a maximum capacity of 10 rounds unless you had the mag extenction before 2000....I doubt they even made a extenction over 10 rounds....too unweildy. Assault weapons can only be semi-automatic, so you can go wild with a pistol gripped, folding stocked shotgun. The only thing you have to worry about is having a barrel over 18 inches.

I'm not sure where you are getting this information (never heard of a mag extension ban), but the following are prohibited in California as assault weapons:

(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.

(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.

(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

The relevant Federal restrictions are that barrels must be no shorter than 18" and the overall length no less than 26". With most shotguns, the overall length requirement is met as long as the barrel is 18" or longer.

In this respect, the pump-action shotguns are relatively lightly regulated. Just make sure the barrel length is correct and, um, don't fabricate a revolving cylinder, and you are fine.

[shawnyteee]

Thanks Mesa for your words of wisdom. I was thinking what if the folding stock makes the shotgun less than 26 inch in overall length but Ill take your word for it

[ke6guj]

I was thinking what if the folding stock makes the shotgun less than 26 inch in overall length but Ill take your word for it

I've got a mossberg cruiser sitting here right now with an 18" barrel. OAL is 26.25" to the end of the receiver, plus whatever the grip adds. So, a folding stock could not bring you under 26". And IIRC, the Remington 870 receiver is longer than the Mossberg 500 receiver, so it would be even longer. The only time the 26" rule really comes into play with a 18+" barrel is with a Over/Under or Side/Side, since the receivers on those are significantly shorter. There may be some other pump-action receivers out there that are shorter than a 500, so double-check your measurements.

[moulton]

I'm not sure where you are getting this information (never heard of a mag extension ban), but the following are prohibited in California as assault weapons:



The relevant Federal restrictions are that barrels must be no shorter than 18" and the overall length no less than 26". With most shotguns, the overall length requirement is met as long as the barrel is 18" or longer.

In this respect, the pump-action shotguns are relatively lightly regulated. Just make sure the barrel length is correct and, um, don't fabricate a revolving cylinder, and you are fine.

you cannot have a shotgun (including pump action) with a capacity over 10 rounds. I know it is very unlikely but there may be a magazine tube extenction that makes the overall round count over 10 which would be illegal.

[ke6guj]

you cannot have a shotgun (including pump action) with a capacity over 10 rounds. I know it is very unlikely but there may be a magazine tube extenction that makes the overall round count over 10 which would be illegal.

Do you have a link to that prohibition in Fed law? Or is this related to CA's large-capacity magazine law

(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.

and an 11 round tubular magazine on a pump-action shotgun wouldn't fall under B or C.

note that an 11 round mag would probably require a 26+" barrel just to fit under it.

edit: you could go with a lever action shotgun like the winchester 1887 and maybe be exempt.

[Mesa Tactical]

you cannot have a shotgun (including pump action) with a capacity over 10 rounds.

Where is the statute that prohibits this?

[moulton]

(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.

You would be manufactureing a large capacity magazine as the overall capacity would be over 10 rounds.