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  • 1911man
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 1575

    Back boring my 870

    I am looking for a local gunsmith to talk about backboring or lengthening the forcing cone of my 870 20ga. To see if it will help on patterning. I have seen on the Internet that it should help. I want to know if it will help and also reduce recoil at little. How much do you think it will cost. I am located in the southbay area of SF.
  • #2
    ysr_racer
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 12014

    Save your money, buy ammo and take a class.

    You'll get much more out of it.

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    • #3
      BigDogatPlay
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2007
      • 7362

      +1

      While you might get some benefit in perceived recoil from back boring the barrel, and you get some added velocity and a shorter shot string, it might be beneficial to understand what is going on with how your gun patterns now. Is this for a defensive gun or a sporting gun? And what is your expectation of pattern and at what distance?

      Bear in mind that if your intent is to shoot rifled slugs at some point through a defensive gun, back boring the barrel will negatively impact accuracy.
      -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

      Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

      Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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      • #4
        G-forceJunkie
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2010
        • 6307

        Give Hans Vang a call, that is his speciality: https://vangcomp.com/

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        • #5
          Thefeeder
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2007
          • 5006

          ><

          Try a different brand, shot size or load weight of shells.

          What is your goal ? Are you looking for better density, equal spread, ect?
          Last edited by Thefeeder; 09-03-2012, 9:37 AM.

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          • #6
            kentactic
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 1127

            Shotguns are suppose to have wide patterns thats why we use them, if you want a tight group put a slug in.

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            • #7
              prc77
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 2578

              Originally posted by kentactic
              Shotguns are suppose to have wide patterns thats why we use them, if you want a tight group put a slug in.
              so untrue.
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              • #8
                .300 Weatherby Mag
                Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 174

                Originally posted by ysr_racer
                Save your money, buy ammo and take a class.

                You'll get much more out of it.
                +1

                In a pump shotgun... The difference wouldn't be worth the $$$ invested... If we were talking about modifying a high quality target shotgun, then it might be a worthy investment... But in reality, you should find a barrel in whatever length you like and be sure it accepts screw in chokes and shoot it..

                I love my pump shotguns but don't modify them other than having them threaded to accept screw in chokes..
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                • #9
                  kentactic
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 1127

                  Originally posted by prc77
                  so untrue.
                  Reading the OP again perhaps your right being its a 20GA. Forgive me as i tend to think of all firearms in the sense of being weapons. I forget people shoot at birds and circular clay disks simulating birds. Also isnt SB249 dead for now? I read they dropped it....

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                  • #10
                    prc77
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2578

                    Originally posted by kentactic
                    Reading the OP again perhaps your right being its a 20GA. Forgive me as i tend to think of all firearms in the sense of being weapons. I forget people shoot at birds and circular clay disks simulating birds. Also isnt SB249 dead for now? I read they dropped it....
                    Huh?
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                    • #11
                      223556
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3344

                      Originally posted by prc77
                      Huh?
                      Think he was refering to your signature.
                      Tagged, Im gonna be working on my 870 soon, interested to see the comments on back boring.
                      "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

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                      • #12
                        kentactic
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1127

                        Originally posted by prc77
                        Huh?
                        I see your vague Huh and raise you a What?

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                        • #13
                          TacticalTrainingAssoc.
                          Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 441

                          Don Lazzarini in Santa Clara does serious shotgun work... DLG Enterprises (408) 492-1013. He's done work on my duty 870, AR, and all my Glocks. If it's a defensive gun, you are responsible for every pellet that comes out of it, you NEED to know the pattern with your chosen load.
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                          • #14
                            prc77
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 2578

                            Originally posted by TacticalTrainingAssoc.
                            Don Lazzarini in Santa Clara does serious shotgun work... DLG Enterprises (408) 492-1013. He's done work on my duty 870, AR, and all my Glocks. If it's a defensive gun, you are responsible for every pellet that comes out of it, you NEED to know the pattern with your chosen load.
                            DLG lengthened the forcing cone on my Moss 500 and beveled the loading port on the same 500 and SLP. Very fair price, and turn around was fast. I patterned 8 different brands of 00 buck before the forcing cone work. The FC work that Don perfomed, tightened up the pattern with most of the buck. The tighter the pattern the better.
                            Like TTA ^^ said. "You are responsible for every pellet". Know how YOUR shotgun patterns.
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                            • #15
                              1911man
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1575

                              20ga.

                              My goal for doing the forcing cone lengthening is to tighten up the groups evenly and I want it to pattern as dense as a 12 ga. with the same amount of shot at 40 yards. It will be for turkey hunting. I have heard that the forcing cone on a nova is about 3 1/2 inches! I have also heard that the benelli M1 and M2 autos, the forcing cones are already lengthened. I don't know if that is true though. Also part of the reason why I am investigating this is that I saw a tactical shotgun show that these two guys were comparing a 20ga. With a 12ga. They said they used the same loads and started shooting big poppers at 5 yards, then at 7 yards, and at 10 yards. The results were about the same, when they stepped back to 15 yards the 20 could not do what the 12ga. did. Then I googled 12 vs 20ga. During the search I found a guy that tested a 20ga. Before and after back boring and he almost doubled the shots that hit the patterned turkey head at 40 yards. My theory is that in the show I was watching 12 vs 20 ga. If the guy that was shooting the 20 ga. Had a back bored 20 would the results would have been closer or more evenly matched?
                              Last edited by 1911man; 09-04-2012, 8:23 PM. Reason: Editing

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