sb249 and s12

[Sam .223]

well i was trying to figure out what to do with my s 12 if this POS of a law gets signed into law, it would seem that the only thing you can do is make it a bolt style gun, and make the gas system non operative. if i'm reading the flow chart correctly that should make the gun legal unless i missed anything?

[GettoPhilosopher]

I was trying to figure that out too. I mean, you could somehow cut down the mag release and weld it so it can't be actuated, but they you can't load it. Like, I tried....you just can't get rounds into the magazine while attached. So at that point, yeah, it's either illegal or you do something to make it no longer semi-auto. Take out the gas puck and plug so it just blows gas out the front? (Full disclosure: I have no idea how horribly unsafe that may or may not be)

[stix213]

I wonder if a box magazine could be modified to load from its side? Create a door on the side of the magazine the size of a 12 gauge shell, add a rod sticking out the side connected to the follower. Open door, pull down rod to compress the spring, load shells, close door. Just thinking out loud I guess.

[1911Operator]

can you just put the regular stock on it, with no pistol grip and use the regular mag release?

[jonzer77]

can you just put the regular stock on it, with no pistol grip and use the regular mag release?

No because in CA it is a AW by simply being a semi auto shotgun and the Maglock makes it legal. If the maglock is illegal then so is the shotgun and several other rifles. My only suggestion if this law passes and there is no stay is to either store it out of state(Reno and Vegas have companies that specialize in this) or go on a boating trip and wait for the law to be struck down.

[Fherot]

This is really sad bull**** how hard we're all trying to comply to the laws of uneducated farts imposing ridiculous laws on us. I wish every single good citizen who enjoyed the shooting sports / supported gun rights would just give them the middle finger and ignore this malarchy.

The population is alot bigger than the government, no gun crimes are committed by law-abiding people with bullet-buttoned 10-round rifles and now it's not good enough they think we're all murderers and robbers armed with Gatling guns.

Rant... rant...

I don't even have an AR or Saiga and it pisses me off.

[bohoki]

I wonder if a box magazine could be modified to load from its side? Create a door on the side of the magazine the size of a 12 gauge shell, add a rod sticking out the side connected to the follower. Open door, pull down rod to compress the spring, load shells, close door. Just thinking out loud I guess.

yea i was thinking about some kind of method with the cammenga easymag

but once the front is pulled down on that the body can flex and it can detach

maybe some type of cable attached to the follower and a hole drilled in the front for say loading 223 mags but 12 ga has a big rim so those would be best loaded from the back

maybe a 10 round drum you can take the back off of

[1911Operator]

Im thinking theres gonna be alot of crazy stuff going down if this law passes. I know theres gonna be alot of people thats not going to simply give up their guns..

[jonzer77]

Im thinking theres gonna be alot of crazy stuff going down if this law passes. I know theres gonna be alot of people thats not going to simply give up their guns..

I predict A LOT of boating accidents

[Dr Rockso]

On the off chance that SB 249 passes and successfully avoids the judiciary (IMO won't happen...it's an unconstitutional taking of property without compensation), I'd be keeping mine out of state.

[bohoki]

On the off chance that SB 249 passes and successfully avoids the judiciary (IMO won't happen...it's an unconstitutional taking of property without compensation), I'd be keeping mine out of state.

they had no registration or buy back of nunchucks and ninja stars

[Sam .223]

i looked at my AGP 10 rounders, i could remove the floor plate and follower and reload that way but i think it'd be easier to just make the gas system inoperable if the law is enacted.

[Dr Rockso]

they had no registration or buy back of nunchucks and ninja stars

That's what happens when you don't have a nunchuck lobby.

[Chief2Guns]

they had no registration or buy back of nunchucks and ninja stars

Silly, nunchucks and ninja stars are not protected under the Bill of Rights. This SB249 will not pass. If it does the Politicians would have committed treason against the Union, The State abd The People. They can't ban a weapon that is in common use, they can only restrict it.

[GNE]

Are nunchuks and ninja stars not arms just as firearms are arms? Nowhere in the 2nd amendment does it say the right to bear arms is only the right to bear firearms.

But with regards to the Saiga 12, you'd have to either make it so the magazine could not be removed without actually disassembling the firearm or render the shotgun no longer a semi-auto.