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  • IrishPirate
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    • Aug 2009
    • 6390

    Any chance this is C&R eligible???

    There's a guy who is willing to trade me his single shot New England Firearms, Pardner SB1 20ga for a computer; but since I'm planning on turning around and selling it to pay for a safe, I'm wondering if it's C&R eligible so i don't have to pay the transfer fee. He said it was his grandfathers and he doesn't know how old it is, nor does it say on the gun what year it was manufactured. I don't really want to incur the extra $35 transfer fee since that would eat into my safe funds and I doubt i'd see it returned in my selling price.

    Google isn't turning up anything helpful so i'm hoping you guys can give me a hand...
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    Mssr. Eleganté
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    Do you know the serial number?
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    • #3
      IrishPirate
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      • Aug 2009
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      i was hoping to find out how to tell from the serial number before i ask him for it...

      SECOND QUESTION: what would happen if he said it was 50+yrs old and I went ahead with the trade, then found out later it wasn't actually C&R eligible? i know STFU about it is the best policy, but in the interest of keeping things legal and legit, what legal implications would I actually face in that instance if it somehow got out???
      Last edited by IrishPirate; 07-25-2012, 10:28 PM.
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      • #4
        7.62x54R
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        • May 2009
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        Originally posted by IrishPirate
        i was hoping to find out how to tell from the serial number before i ask him for it...

        SECOND QUESTION: what would happen if he said it was 50+yrs old and I went ahead with the trade, then found out later it wasn't actually C&R eligible? i know STFU about it is the best policy, but in the interest of keeping things legal and legit, what legal implications would I actually face in that instance if it somehow got out???
        So you want to break the law then?
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          Mssr. Eleganté
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          I don't think the original H&R company ever used the "New England Firearms" name on any guns. It wasn't until H&R was recreated in the late 1980's that the NEF name came about. So the shotgun is probably less than 25 years old.

          -- EDIT --

          Yeah, it looks like the NEF name was only used from 1986 to 2008. Serial numbers starting with the letter N were NEF stamped guns while serial numbers starting with H were H&R stamped guns. The second letter of the serial number prefix is a code for the year, with "A" being 1986, "B" being 1987, etc.
          Last edited by Mssr. Eleganté; 07-25-2012, 10:39 PM.
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          • #6
            IrishPirate
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            • Aug 2009
            • 6390

            Originally posted by 7.62x54R
            So you want to break the law then?
            no. i want to know what the law is in regards to being sold a C&R gun cash and carry that turns out to not be C&R eligible. what would i be responsible to do upon finding out the gun's true age?

            I don't think the original H&R company ever used the "New England Firearms" name on any guns. It wasn't until H&R was recreated in the late 1980's that the NEF name came about. So the shotgun is probably less than 25 years old.

            -- EDIT --

            Yeah, it looks like the NEF name was only used from 1986 to 2008. Serial numbers starting with the letter N were NEF stamped guns while serial numbers starting with H were H&R stamped guns. The second letter of the serial number prefix is a code for the year, with "A" being 1986, "B" being 1987, etc.
            thank you very much, any chance you can post the link where you found that? I'd like to send it to the guy so I can have HIM tell me the age of the gun.
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              Mssr. Eleganté
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              • Oct 2005
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              Originally posted by IrishPirate
              ...thank you very much, any chance you can post the link where you found that? I'd like to send it to the guy so I can have HIM tell me the age of the gun.
              Any method for translating the serial numbers into production dates for the H&R and NEF shotguns, revovlers, and rifles?


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              • #8
                IrishPirate
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                • Aug 2009
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                The Force Search Function is strong with this one...
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