Cut stock on an auto loader?

[TURNKEY13]

Ok, wanting to move into shotguns this year and thinking about a HD auto loader (930, 1187) Two questions, #1 is there an AR type buffer system in the stock? If not, then question #2, I've read the flow chart and it says if the pistol grip is "conspicuous" below the receiver then it's considered an AW. My question is, can I cut the stock down to just the grip and be legal? Basically it would look like a pump action with a "bobbed" stock.
Thanks for any help.

[CasperSYTFU]

There is a long tube through the stock, so besides cutting down the pad at the end, what you want to do can't be done on the 930.

[Utha Schleigle]

Be carefull with shortening the stock of a auto loader. As said above many auto loader have srprings inside the stocks.

I would go with premade adjustable stocks that are made for the shock gun in question .

Pistol gripps are cool but this can absorb too much recoil that is needed to cycle the autoloading action as designed by factory

I would keep stock --- stock ---- tuck under arm as needed. HD guns must fire rounds - Reailablility is one IMPORTANT concern. The gun you buy must fire - stock or with ant changes. Also the stock can help you hold on to gun for hand to hand hallway confrontation.


If you look at FLOW CHART - you wiil see that you not run a floul of laws as long as conform to tube magazine and up to 10 rounds capacity.

My link to flow chart did not work - If another member could post this - this would be very cool.

[003]

I no nothing about the 930, but on Remington shotguns, part of the recoil system is in the stock, round numbers, 6-8 inches past the end of the receiver.

[TURNKEY13]

Thanks guys. And thanks for the qwick reply!!I had a feeling there was some kinda recoil system in there. Bummer

[CasperSYTFU]

Shotgun Flowchart

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/sgflowchart.pdf

[BigDogatPlay]

As noted above many (although not all) semi-auto shotguns have their mainspring assembly buried in the stock. Mossberg 930 and Remington guns absolutely do so cutting those guns down to pistol grip only configurations is not possible. I've seen older Remington 11's and Browning A-5's with substantially shortened stocks that turned out well.

Check for schematics on guns you are thinking about and those will show you what is and is not possible with the stock.

[nicki]

Saiga 12.

Guess you could get a SAIGA 12 and build it without a stock, the issue of course would be overall length.

Thinking about this, I can't have a folding, telescopic or other collapsable stock, but I can't find anything telling me I can't have a removable stock.

As the other guys posted, many of the autoloader shotguns have their buffer tubes in their stocks.

Nicki

[prc77]

I was able to reduce the LOP on my SLP by 3/4" without any serious issues. I could probably reduce it by another 1/2" . But the shotgun is fitting pretty good.