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  • Lexustech48
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    • May 2012
    • 358

    Mossberg 500 not racking properly. jammed?

    Hi all. Was at the range tonight having some fun and blowin off some steam. Rifle fired well, then switched to my Mossberg 500.

    Was firing Winchester Super Targets. Got about 9 shots through it and then as I racked back to eject the spent shell, it got stuck in the rearward position. Im thinking "Oh cr*p" .... After screwing with it for a few minutes, i was able to free the pump up. Decided that I wasnt chancing firing a malfunctioning gun so i started to cycle through to get all ammo out. Damn thing was jamming everytime I racked back. Once I cleared all the ammo, it racked ok for a few pumps. loaded a shell to try and cycle it and it jammed trying to eject the live shell.

    I put my Mossy away semi disgusted. Lol my one gun that was supposed to save my *** no matter what has failed.

    Has ANYONE ever encountered something like this? I just got it so if i cant figure out whats wrong to fix it, Ill have to take her in for warranty work.
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    Travis590A1
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    • Oct 2011
    • 5233

    Did you clean it before you shot it? Winchester ammo can be a pain at times. I've had some shells expand to far and it caused the action to lock up. I had to use a little extra muscle! Also there is a screw inside the reciever directly in the middle in the reciever (when the ejection port is open) make sure the screw is tight and flush, if not it can and will cause jams. I suggest purchasing some dummy rounds then cleaning it very well and then try and cycle it.

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    • #3
      shellslinger
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      • Jan 2011
      • 930

      You should take it apart and put it back together perhaps the shell elevator is binding up
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      • #4
        CK_32
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        Originally posted by Travis590A1
        Did you clean it before you shot it? Winchester ammo can be a pain at times. I've had some shells expand to far and it caused the action to lock up. I had to use a little extra muscle! Also there is a screw inside the reciever directly in the middle in the reciever (when the ejection port is open) make sure the screw is tight and flush, if not it can and will cause jams. I suggest purchasing some dummy rounds then cleaning it very well and then try and cycle it.
        But that's only with 870s... All other guns eat Winchester like candy! Remington must have something to do with it If that's the case
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        • #5
          Lexustech48
          Member
          • May 2012
          • 358

          Ill be tearing her down, probably within the hour. Ill check the screw (know exactly which one you guys are talking about). But I *think* it may be the shell elevator. Haha if I cant figure it out, Im glad I have warranty on it!
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          • #6
            shellslinger
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            • Jan 2011
            • 930

            Originally posted by Lexustech48
            Ill be tearing her down, probably within the hour. Ill check the screw (know exactly which one you guys are talking about). But I *think* it may be the shell elevator. Haha if I cant figure it out, Im glad I have warranty on it!
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            • #7
              Lexustech48
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 358

              Well, I found the problem. Frankly Im shocked. As you can see in the attached pics, it looks like a pin in the bolt assembly cracked and caused a misalignment of the extractor (?... the pivoted part on top of the bolt assembly). looks like that was causing the bolt to bind when racked to the rear. Of course, i guess anything would jam if you HAD A CHUNK OF METAL BREAK OFF AND JAM IN YOUR ACTION. lol

              Ill have to run it over to Duncans Gunworks in San Marcos today. Ill call them to see if they want it in pieces or reassembled.

              those damn Super light target loads from Winchester was the straw that broke the camels back!
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              • #8
                mikey357
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                • Nov 2005
                • 323

                Originally posted by Lexustech48
                Well, I found the problem. Frankly Im shocked. As you can see in the attached pics, it looks like a pin in the bolt assembly cracked and caused a misalignment of the extractor (?... the pivoted part on top of the bolt assembly). looks like that was causing the bolt to bind when racked to the rear. Of course, i guess anything would jam if you HAD A CHUNK OF METAL BREAK OFF AND JAM IN YOUR ACTION. lol

                Ill have to run it over to Duncans Gunworks in San Marcos today. Ill call them to see if they want it in pieces or reassembled.

                those damn Super light target loads from Winchester was the straw that broke the camels back!
                I often read comparisons between various makes and models of shotguns. This has been mentioned on THR. One poster claimed that he could break a mossy 500 by slamming the action a few times. The bolt pin was the weakest point in the 500. Appears to be some truth to his claim.

                Last edited by mikey357; 06-23-2012, 1:56 PM. Reason: additonal info

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                • #9
                  Lexustech48
                  Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 358

                  Well she is fixed. I took it in to Duncans. I had two choices, send it out with a projected turn around time of about 2 months. OR pay 5 bucks for the part and they just put it in for me (I went there with the bolt already removed from the gun.) 5 bucks well spent. =)

                  Havent been to the range yet, Ill wait till I have more ammo stocked up for a range day. But so far after getting her back together, she racks, the pin fires, and the safety works. Till I have her back out at the range though, my AR will be my primary till then.
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                  • #10
                    wjc
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                    If it's the pin you might want to find out if someone makes an after market version made of better quality metal.
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                    • #11
                      Lexustech48
                      Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 358

                      Ill have to do that. I certainly dont want this issue to return. All the other parts seemed to be ok.
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                      • #12
                        Dont_Shoot_im_Chinese
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                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1488

                        i agree with the others...take it apart, clean, lube, and put it back.
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                        • #13
                          mikey357
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                          • Nov 2005
                          • 323

                          Originally posted by wjc
                          If it's the pin you might want to find out if someone makes an after market version made of better quality metal.
                          Looking around for one but no luck. It appears that the 590 uses the same pin as the 500. Midway list them as the same. Strange, that the 590 does not have the same problem. With the millions of 500 out there, I dont hear of this being a common problem. Maybe just an occasional bad pin.

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                          • #14
                            Travis590A1
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                            • Oct 2011
                            • 5233

                            2000+ rounds of misc buckshot, slugs, and birdshot and not 1 problem in my 590a1

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                            • #15
                              Lexustech48
                              Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 358

                              FYI: Checked in at Brownells. They have an interactive part diagram. According to them, the Mossberg 500 and Mossberg 590 Share MANY of the same internal components (bolt assy, trigger group etc.) Difference in barrels and mag tube.

                              So the pin that broke on my 500, is the same pin that is in the 590.

                              Im hoping I just had the bad luck to have a weak bolt pin.
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