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  • stainlesssoldier
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 3

    non registered shotty

    i recently aquired an unregistered shotgun and i wanted to make sure it is legal to own one. i also heard through a friend that it is legal to carry a shotty in the car/truck with ammo in a sidesaddle. i am new to calguns and want to get to know other advocates. any info will help. thanks
  • #2
    slick_711
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 4400

    Depending on what "acquire" means, yes.

    They don't register long guns anyway. Shotguns, rifles, as long as it's not an "assault weapon" type shotgun you are good to go.

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    • #3
      bwiese
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2005
      • 27621

      Long guns are not really 'registered', per se. Once you legally have it in CA, there's not much record of it.

      However, if you are CA resident, you generally need to acquire firearms thru the services of a CA FFL dealer along with paperwork/background check & 10 day wait. Exceptions are for "C&R"/antiques, and for transfers from direct family members within CA (grandparent/parent/child/grandchild relationships only).

      Otherwise the firearm was illegally obtained.

      Even if one of the specified family members above were to give the shotgun to you but was a non-CA resident, it would still have to go thru a CA FFL dealer to be legal - to keep the Feds/BATF happy, since state lines were crossed.

      Bill Wiese
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      • #4
        oaklander
        Banned
        • May 2006
        • 11095

        EDIT: what Bill said. . .

        Seems like there are a lot of people asking about things that relate to Federal (not just state) firearms issues.



        Originally posted by stainlesssoldier
        i recently aquired an unregistered shotgun and i wanted to make sure it is legal to own one. i also heard through a friend that it is legal to carry a shotty in the car/truck with ammo in a sidesaddle. i am new to calguns and want to get to know other advocates. any info will help. thanks

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        • #5
          stainlesssoldier
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 3

          i recieved this gun through a former employer who owned it for more than 25 years and never did a 10 day wait period himself so i daont know how that would work. the gun has been in Ca the whole time. if that helps. this may sound like a "noob" but what is a c&r? thanks for the help

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          • #6
            bwiese
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Oct 2005
            • 27621

            Originally posted by stainlesssoldier
            i recieved this gun through a former employer who owned it for more than 25 years and never did a 10 day wait period himself so i daont know how that would work. the gun has been in Ca the whole time. if that helps. this may sound like a "noob" but what is a c&r? thanks for the help
            If you got this before Jan 1. 1991 from employer, and you were both CA residents, you're OK.

            Otherwise you & employer should go down to FFL and do paperwork/pay small fee for a private-party transfer.

            [If the gun was manufactured sometime before 1/1/1991 and neither the boss nor you remember when you got the gun, the burden of proof would be on the gov't to prove otherwise. If the gun was mfgd after 1/1/1991, that's pretty good indication it was not transferred properly.]

            Bill Wiese
            San Jose, CA

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            • #7
              Equalizer2
              In Memoriam
              • Oct 2007
              • 410

              Originally posted by stainlesssoldier
              i recieved this gun through a former employer who owned it for more than 25 years and never did a 10 day wait period himself so i daont know how that would work. the gun has been in Ca the whole time. if that helps. this may sound like a "noob" but what is a c&r? thanks for the help
              C&R is a curio or relic which is any gun over 50 years old . Such as an old Browning Auto 5, or Winchester Model 12, so if the weapon you got is over 50 years old you don't have to do anything.
              " Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore "

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              • #8
                hitman13
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 3793

                its a shotgun, not a shotty

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                • #9
                  davedog665
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 525

                  Originally posted by hitman13
                  its a shotgun, not a shotty
                  Thanks hitman i hate when people call them shottys
                  Hi cap=standard capacity!!! 10rnd=reduced capacity!!!
                  "A coward dies a thousand deaths; A hero dies but one" William Shakespeare

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                  • #10
                    Two Shots
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 2022

                    What kind of shotgun did you get? Starting to hear the term Shotty more and more lately. Anyway do yourself a favor keep the gun locked up at home unless your going shooting. Cars/Trucks are targets for the low lifes out there to break in. I know of three cases within the last 2 weeks one car was broken into in a parking space across from the front of a store No one noticed them breaking a window the second was infront of a guys house broke the window, The other two cars were parked in resturants parking lot Smashed windows alarms going off no one saw anything. So use care when you leave a weapon in a vehicle.
                    Last edited by Two Shots; 01-12-2008, 10:17 AM.
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                    • #11
                      .22guy
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 5863

                      Originally posted by Equalizer2
                      C&R is a curio or relic which is any gun over 50 years old . Such as an old Browning Auto 5, or Winchester Model 12, so if the weapon you got is over 50 years old you don't have to do anything.
                      Except handguns in CA. Those must be DROS'd or PPT'd.
                      Originally posted by sholling
                      Someone else's lack of foresight and planning is no reason for you to take less than the current market value despite all of the wailing and crying for 2nd Amendment socialism and welfare pricing.

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                      • #12
                        elSquid
                        In Memoriam
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 11844

                        Originally posted by davedog665
                        Thanks hitman i hate when people call them shottys

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                        • #13
                          marklbucla
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 914

                          i also heard through a friend that it is legal to carry a shotty in the car/truck with ammo in a sidesaddle.
                          From Page 35 of the 2006 Book:

                          A firearm is deemed loaded when there is a live cartridge or shell in, or attached in any
                          manner to, the firearm, including, but not limited to, the firing chamber, magazine, or clip
                          thereof attached to the firearm.
                          IIRC, it's been determined that live ammo in a side saddle makes the gun "loaded".

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                          • #14
                            CSACANNONEER
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 44094

                            Originally posted by hitman13
                            its a shotgun, not a shotty
                            Yea, but you've got to give these mall ninja, airsofters a little while to learn the correct language and the laws.
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                            • #15
                              L-2
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 1335

                              Originally posted by stainlesssoldier
                              i also heard through a friend that it is legal to carry a shotty in the car/truck with ammo in a sidesaddle.
                              Don't rely on your friend or even Calguns.net on this issue. Read the laws for yourself and make your own decisions. (Even then, "marklbucla" is giving some good advice, btw.)

                              Try Penal Code 12031, to start: http://leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html
                              Last edited by L-2; 01-13-2008, 3:51 PM.
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