Ignorant gun store proclaims Mossberg 990 illegal

[S.A.]

Went to the gun store for a Mossberg 990. Spoke with a employee about my interest and he went to back of store to ask manager about when they can get an order in.
Employee returned with no can do, per manager Mossberg 990 illegal. I explained it is not, there is a California complaint model.
Employee requoted what manager said.
If you’re looking to buy a Mossberg 990, Gun Effects in City of Industry will not sell to you . They’re ignorant of gun legalities.

[Capybara]

Went to the gun store for a Mossberg 990. Spoke with a employee about my interest and he went to back of store to ask manager about when they can get an order in.
Employee returned with no can do, per manager Mossberg 990 illegal. I explained it is not, there is a California complaint model.
Employee requoted what manager said.
If you’re looking to buy a Mossberg 990, Gun Effects in City of Industry will not sell to you . They’re ignorant of gun legalities.

You could have pointed out that if they are illegal, why are Turners, Riflegear, Wilde Built Tactical and almost all other gun stores in Commifornia selling them?
What idiots, glad you posted who it was, a good gun store to avoid unless you are looking for FUD.

[r8rs4lf]

I've gotten responses like that before. They just didn't know there are California complaint models.

I actually had a Turners employee go above and beyond to help me locate a firearm under these same circumstances.

[S.A.]

I did mention I’ll just buy it at Riflegear.

[Capybara]

Exactly. In the era of the Internet, there really is no excuse for someone who makes their living by selling guns to not know what they are allowed and not allowed to sell. That's just laziness and ignorance.

[The Gleam]

Went to the gun store for a Mossberg 990. Spoke with a employee about my interest and he went to back of store to ask manager about when they can get an order in.
Employee returned with no can do, per manager Mossberg 990 illegal. I explained it is not, there is a California complaint model.
Employee requoted what manager said.
If you’re looking to buy a Mossberg 990, Gun Effects in City of Industry will not sell to you . They’re ignorant of gun legalities.

That and FUD - to be expected. Meanwhile, over in the thread on the recent 'Freedom 3-Day Week' on the overturn by Rhode vs. Bonta, we have a CA dealer all in a frenetic panic and menstruating hysteria over people reporting their completely legal mail-order purchases arriving on time as scheduled, right here on Calguns.

Oh, and you'll go to jail!!!!

https://www.calguns.net/forum/politics-litigation-and-activism/2nd-amend-litigation-updates-legal-discussion/1370919-rhode-v-becerra-challenge-to-ca-ammo-sales-oral-args-at-9th-11-9-2020/page237#post54637838

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[splithoof]

There are some individuals in the firearms industry who have proven that a dildo can actually speak. Something I’d expect to see more on that other leftist gun forum, but it is what it is, they are who they are.

[tacticalcity]

He was probably thinking of the 14.5" barreled model and did not realize there is an 18.5" version. But whatever. They do not have to carry a product if they do not want to and you do not have to buy from them if you do not want to. There are gun stores out there that still refuse to sell AR and AK style rifles that are CA compliant. That is their choice. As it is my choice to shop elsewhere.

[CALI-gula]

He was probably thinking of the 14.5" barreled model and did not realize there is an 18.5" version.

That was my thought on that. Forgotten Weapons did a video on it and I was thinking about CA's OAL requirements the whole video. Because of that I'd just get a Mossberg 18.5" with a regular pistol grip instead of that stick like grip.

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[tacticalcity]

That was my thought on that. Forgotten Weapons did a video on it and I was thinking about CA's OAL requirements the whole video. Because of that I'd just get a Mossberg 18.5" with a regular pistol grip instead of that stick like grip.

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From a practical standpoint, a shotgun without a stock is next to useless. That first shot better do the trick or by the time you get back on target they will have taken it from you and beat you to death with it. It's hard enough to control a 9mm AR/UZI/MP5 without a stock in any practical sense. It's next to impossible with a 12ga. That additional point of contact with your shoulder is critical for maintaining recoil and getting good follow up shots. Especially when there are multiple "targets". Don't get me wrong. They look cool as hell. But they are not remotely practical. That said, the heart wants what the heart wants. Not everything I own is practical either. Some of it's just fun. I mean, I would buy a MAC-10 in a heartbeat if I could. It would be next to useless. But I still want it.

[CALI-gula]

From a practical standpoint, a shotgun without a stock is next to useless. That first shot better do the trick or by the time you get back on target they will have taken it from you and beat you to death with it. It's hard enough to control a 9mm AR/UZI/MP5 without a stock in any practical sense. It's next to impossible with a 12ga. That additional point of contact with your shoulder is critical for maintaining recoil and getting good follow up shots. Especially when there are multiple "targets". Don't get me wrong. They look cool as hell. But they are not remotely practical. That said, the heart wants what the heart wants. Not everything I own is practical either. Some of it's just fun. I mean, I would buy a MAC-10 in a heartbeat if I could. It would be next to useless. But I still want it.

Agree, to a point. I've never had a problem being that much off target with an old 1980's Cruiser I have, and someone on the receiving end of that first shot is not just going to keep coming with no hesitancy. Can't say that wouldn't happen, but extremely rare.

My 500 Cruiser has a pistol grip with folding Choate stock as a backup.

But sometimes the compact size or portability is the goal, and if one were to want a pistol grip, a traditional grip on a pump gun makes it a lot easier to pump with authority than that stick like grip.

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[L84CABO]

Went to the gun store...

Well there's your problem son!

[oddball]

From a practical standpoint, a shotgun without a stock is next to useless. That first shot better do the trick or by the time you get back on target they will have taken it from you and beat you to death with it. It's hard enough to control a 9mm AR/UZI/MP5 without a stock in any practical sense. It's next to impossible with a 12ga. That additional point of contact with your shoulder is critical for maintaining recoil and getting good follow up shots. Especially when there are multiple "targets". Don't get me wrong. They look cool as hell. But they are not remotely practical. That said, the heart wants what the heart wants. Not everything I own is practical either. Some of it's just fun. I mean, I would buy a MAC-10 in a heartbeat if I could. It would be next to useless. But I still want it.

I disagree with the bolded parts.

The first gun I bought when I moved to TX 8 years ago was a 590 Shockwave and had gotten used to the method of gripping, holding, and aiming the gun while firing. For me, positioning it out in front of me was best, and not a problem for decently quick target acquisition and accuracy. A couple of weeks ago, I bought a 14" 990 Aftershock and it is quite an improvement, especially for follow-up shots and felt recoil. I have posted about it with pics in the Aftershock thread. The Shockwave was my living room gun because it fit perfectly in a nice hiding space and the Aftershock will take its place. so in MY situation, it is more than practical enough to own one. I took it out again on Sunday with my nephew and soon, he was hitting steel everytime using my Crimson Trace laser while shooting from the hip at 7 yrds, and he soon got the hang of it gripping out in front of him hitting steel at 10 yds. The 18.5" Aftershock defeats the entire purpose of the birds head grip and the whole concept of the Shockwave/Aftershock; it is the short barrel and grip combo that makes the gun. Small enough for my buddy to utilize a Shockwave as his truck gun, hidden under his seat where a standard shotty would be too long, they absolutely can serve a purpose in the defensive system.

Some videos showcasing the Aftershock, he also manufactures a grip strap that is supposed to work well.

[hermosabeach]

Why do we rip on gun stores? Send an email to management with the CA version

we have so few gun shops... why the need to rip on shops in public?

[Capybara]

OP, Turners new flyer that begins on Friday has the 990 Aftershock for $949!

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