Buckshot overkill? Picture added.

[pacifico23]

OH SNAP!!!!

Ban Hammer on Canonneer....Never thought Id'e see the day.

[Solidux]

I hope my advice will be better than some of the other "hazing-ish" replies.

35 shells is fine... if the sling is separate from the shotgun itself (loaded tube + side saddle and the sling/belt easily accessible in your nightstand or under bed...etc)

The military is constantly evolving when it comes to slings due to reasons some of the people here listed: tangles, quick action, and points of connection. The standard 2 point sling system requires unslinging of the firearm before bringing the weapon up to your shoulder (unless very loose). 3 point systems are not really practical for shotguns and your primary weapon should be on this. 1 point slings are ideal for shotguns as quick accessibility to the firearm plus the ability to quickly change platforms to rifle/pistol is needed in combat situations.

That being said, IMO, you only need a sling on your shotgun if in combat situations with multiple firearms. For HD, the standard encounter wont last more than what you have in your tube.

I can't recall a single case in HD where the homeowner had to fire more than 5 shells.

On my HD 500, I have 00 in the tube, 3 00 on the saddle + 2 slugs.

Nothing wrong with 35, 50, or even 100 shells...

... now putting a scope/red dot/etc on a pistol grip only shotgun is ... haze worthy. I've seen many fob rat mall ninjas with a $500 acog on a 500 cruiser series shotgun...

I... dont think they've ever fired a cruiser before...

[hyperion.excal]

In real HD scenario 35 shells will do more harm to you than good, it just slow you down, the weight will delay your target acquisition and slow your movement.

The extended magazine tube and side shell holders will do just fine. For HD you want to be fast and versatile so keep the SG as light as possible. A light is important too, you want to be able to see your target and whats beyond it. Keep it simple.

[saki302]

My defense shotgun has a light (on a rail I added- a simple M3 light), and a surefire stock which holds 4 rounds well out of the way.

I can't stand side saddles or anything that adds crap to the side of my guns. It throws off the balance and makes it clunky IMO.

-Dave

[I500X]

To OP: So if you know so many people with "real combat experience" and you don't care about the opinions of "strangers", why are you posting here again?

[repubconserv]

OH SNAP!!!!

Ban Hammer on Canonneer....Never thought Id'e see the day.

I think he has been "banned" since april fools day.... when Kes changed the membership status of all CGN donators...

To OP: So if you know so many people with "real combat experience" and you don't care about the opinions of "strangers", why are you posting here again?

This is what I was wondering

[Travis590A1]

Because its always good to get multiple opinions....let me ask you a question, why do you comment of your not going to contribute to the topic? Trolling should be your answer

[Beaker650]

From someone who carried a shotgun every working day for 32+ years, what you have described is not just overkill, it is ludicrous. Keep the chamber empty, magazine tube full, a side saddle or similar device holding another five rounds will be sufficient.

I survived a firefight against multiple suspects wielding an AK-47, a 9mm pistol, and a .45 ACP pistol with an Ithaca pump and five rounds of buckshot. They were all trying to kill me and my partner, and fired first.

Training is more important than any gadget you can put on your gun. The rig you describe is restricted to mall ninjas, sorry.

Thank you for this. I've been trying to figure out as a single woman, if a shotgun (and/or my Sig 226) would be sufficient enough if a few men broke into my home.

[Xingu]

Because its always good to get multiple opinions....let me ask you a question, why do you comment of your not going to contribute to the topic? Trolling should be your answer

WOW. Just WOW.
This thread =

[Travis590A1]

Ya I started this thread and I've been over it for a while but ppl keep on posting random things.

[saki302]

Thank you for this. I've been trying to figure out as a single woman, if a shotgun (and/or my Sig 226) would be sufficient enough if a few men broke into my home.

Put a full load of 00 buck into the first guy- care to bet if his buddies stick around?

-Dave

[NYCShooter]

Thank you for this. I've been trying to figure out as a single woman, if a shotgun (and/or my Sig 226) would be sufficient enough if a few men broke into my home.

IMO, there is nothing more deadly at HD distances than a shotgun loaded 6+1 with 00 or 1B buck.

[marcusrn]

Young bull and old bull up on the hill looking down on field below at a herd of cows.

Young bull says to old bull, "lets run down there and roger one of those cows".

Old bull says"lets walk down and roger them all".


The old bulls have spoken.

NoNOS picture of the internet guy may be fun but also cruel.

I love this website!

[WDE91]

Yo dawg, I just bught a civic and am thinking i iz wanab da best streatracer in all of Cali
I iz need mo nos,splitter,and neonz

U iz got da houkups homie??

[Ron-Solo]

Ok what does that story have to do with a sling? Most marines and rangers I know that have done multiple tours in iraq (including my brother and two cousins) don't even like to descuss anything they have seen and done and you talk about it like your chuck norris.

OK, since you asked, I will tell you. In home defense situation, a sling on a shotgun is more of a liability than an asset. Especially a sling loaded down with rounds. The sling can easily get tangled on furniture and you are quickly in deep trouble. A side saddle of elastic shell holder on the stock that holds an additional five rounds is more than sufficient.

I survived that particular gunfight because of training and practice, not because I had a bunch of gadgets on my gun.

When I worked one of our mountain units, our shotguns had slings on them, because we would often have to hike long distances with them. We also drove larger vehicles with more room in them. (Chevy 4x4 Blazers) When I worked the urban areas, we did not have slings, because slings easily get caught on all the junk in a patrol car, making exiting in a hurry dangerous.

If you can't take out multiple suspects with 10 rounds of quality 00 buck, you need more training. Personally, I don't think you have shown the maturity needed to take this serious.

And who your brother or cousin is doesn't matter when the fecal matter hits the oscillating wind device. All that matters is what you know, and if you can put that training into play when it counts.

I have worked alongside of some of my fellow deputies who distinguished themselves in the jungles of Vietnam, the deserts of Iraq, and the mountains of Afghanistan. These men included among their accomplishments the Distinguished Flying Cross, Silver Star (multiple), Navy Cross, Bronze Star w/ "V" (multiple) and the Purple Heart. For you to say the LE doesn't know about firefights dishonors them.

And to all our Veterans, regardless of your combat experience.......THANK YOU!