Vertical foregrip on pump shotgun?

[Joejitsu]

Trying to navigate the ever changing CA laws. I will be picking up a Keltec KSG 12 gauge this month and trying to figure out if I can legally put a vertical foregrip on it or not?

[Joejitsu]

McFly?

[Quiet]

Trying to navigate the ever changing CA laws. I will be picking up a Keltec KSG 12 gauge this month and trying to figure out if I can legally put a vertical foregrip on it or not?

In order for a manually operated (break-open, bolt-action, lever-action, pump-action) shotgun to be CA legal, it must meet all of the following:
1. Have a barrel length of 18" or greater.
2. Have an overall length of 26" or greater.
^Overall length is measured with the shotgun in the shortest possible fireable configuration (stock folded/collapsed or removed if quick detachable).

Therefore...

It is CA legal to attach a vertical forward grip on a Kel-Tec KSG shotgun.


Note that due to previous catastrophic incidents with "cheap/inexpensive" vertical forward grips on the Kel-Tec KSG breaking off during the pump cycle resulting in the support hand being placed in front of the muzzle of the shotgun, it is prudent to use a high quality vertical forward grip on the KSG/KS7 shotgun series.

[Avocado Toast]

Assuming the legalities are covered, a vertical foregrip on a pump shotgun is a really no bueno idea and will eventually lead to a messed up gun. No serious shotgunner or student uses one and in any reputable class, you don't see them. It leads to binding of the action.

For the gun to function properly, the slide needs to come straight back so the dual action bars on the forend tube come back parallel to the bore. On a single bar gun it's even more important. When you have a vertical grip, the natural human tendency is to pull towards your chest. The shotgun will be sitting in the R shoulder pocket when you're pulling back.

Because of the length of the vertical grip, you to tend to pull the base of the grip towards you and that twists and torques the action bars, causing them to bind or drag in the receiver slots, and even on the barrel when it's really bad. When that happens, the user pulls harder on the vertical gripe and that exacerbates the binding problem.

There's no fix for this other than buying a new forend tube those are simply unavailable and have been for some time.

[bohoki]

i got the tac star on my winchester seems to work ok i had to do minor fitting though there were little areas i had to file to make it seat against the metal tube

[Joejitsu]

thanks for the responses guys

[Capybara]

Assuming the legalities are covered, a vertical foregrip on a pump shotgun is a really no bueno idea and will eventually lead to a messed up gun. No serious shotgunner or student uses one and in any reputable class, you don't see them. It leads to binding of the action.

For the gun to function properly, the slide needs to come straight back so the dual action bars on the forend tube come back parallel to the bore. On a single bar gun it's even more important. When you have a vertical grip, the natural human tendency is to pull towards your chest. The shotgun will be sitting in the R shoulder pocket when you're pulling back.

Because of the length of the vertical grip, you to tend to pull the base of the grip towards you and that twists and torques the action bars, causing them to bind or drag in the receiver slots, and even on the barrel when it's really bad. When that happens, the user pulls harder on the vertical gripe and that exacerbates the binding problem.

There's no fix for this other than buying a new forend tube those are simply unavailable and have been for some time.

There are a few shotguns that were designed for a vertical grip. Like my Smith M&P 12. But I agree, generally not a great idea because of what you wrote.

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510]

In order for a manually operated (break-open, bolt-action, lever-action, pump-action) shotgun to be CA legal, it must meet all of the following:
1. Have a barrel length of 18" or greater.
2. Have an overall length of 26" or greater.
^Overall length is measured with the shotgun in the shortest possible fireable configuration (stock folded/collapsed or removed if quick detachable).

Therefore...

It is CA legal to attach a vertical forward grip on a Kel-Tec KSG shotgun.


Note that due to previous catastrophic incidents with "cheap/inexpensive" vertical forward grips on the Kel-Tec KSG breaking off during the pump cycle resulting in the support hand being placed in front of the muzzle of the shotgun, it is prudent to use a high quality vertical forward grip on the KSG/KS7 shotgun series.

https://www.hitechcc.com/product/HTC-107.html

https://www.hitechcc.com/product/HTC-503.html

[mitch1]

https://www.hitechcc.com/product/HTC-107.html

https://www.hitechcc.com/product/HTC-503.html

I did all those to my KSG too

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510]

I did all those to my KSG too

Was it worth it? Do you like it?

[mitch1]

Yes to both

[sonofeugene]

I have a Surefire forend with a light on my Mossberg 500. I like it much more than any grip I could install.