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  • #61
    Jbam7185
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2018
    • 29

    So with the open letter from ATF today I'm thinking I don't need to wait for my form 1. I would like my tax stamp, and will wait longer. Filed 6 weeks ago, I'm hoping soon.

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    • #62
      Silence Dogood
      Senior Member
      • May 2018
      • 1925

      Originally posted by Jbam7185
      So with the open letter from ATF today I'm thinking I don't need to wait for my form 1. I would like my tax stamp, and will wait longer. Filed 6 weeks ago, I'm hoping soon.
      As referenced by Reno May in the video in post #58, your thinking would seem to be correct though I might ask a CA attorney before I assembled an AOW if it were me.

      The relevant PC, 17710, in conjunction with the guidance ATF released today, would seem to allow it (highlighting mine):
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      • #63
        ir0nclash86
        Veteran Member
        • May 2010
        • 3619

        Sooo if we currently own an AOW , were ok to still own it? And we can just build one willy nilly now?

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        • #64
          Capybara
          CGSSA Coordinator
          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2012
          • 15733

          Originally posted by ir0nclash86
          Sooo if we currently own an AOW , were ok to still own it? And we can just build one willy nilly now?
          If you have your tax stamps, yes, your AOW is still registered and still an NFA device. As far as if this ruling affects Commifornia, I would wait to hear from someone who REALLY knows what they are talking about on this.
          AOWs are mentioned in several California PCs but creating one really isn't. If something is not mentioned in PC, it is generally legal but then again, Commifornia illegally arrests and seizes legal weapons and destroys them almost daily so
          I would wait for guidance from CRPA or someone like that before building or creating anything.
          NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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          • #65
            The Gleam
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 13743

            In CA, I picked up a Mossberg semiauto 990 Aftershock on sale, and must day, that's short a'plenty.

            With that in tow, I don't really see a need to go any shorter just to push CA limits, nor do I really think I would want a semiauto shotgun any shorter.

            I had a chance to get a Serbu Super Shorty AOW at one point, but passed on it - honestly, it was so short, it didn't make any sense - nor worth any special hassle.

            I'm not against the AOW Shotgun by any means, the dea of any short shotgun is appealing. I just think my 40 year old Mossberg pistol-gripped 500 18" Cruiser, and this new Aftershock semiauto are the perfect length for what I want out of them.

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            Originally posted by Librarian
            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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            • #66
              Jbam7185
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2018
              • 29

              Form 1 approved today!

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              • #67
                sigstroker
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2009
                • 19954

                Originally posted by The Gleam
                In CA, I picked up a Mossberg semiauto 990 Aftershock on sale, and must day, that's short a'plenty.

                With that in tow, I don't really see a need to go any shorter just to push CA limits, nor do I really think I would want a semiauto shotgun any shorter.

                I had a chance to get a Serbu Super Shorty AOW at one point, but passed on it - honestly, it was so short, it didn't make any sense - nor worth any special hassle.

                I'm not against the AOW Shotgun by any means, the dea of any short shotgun is appealing. I just think my 40 year old Mossberg pistol-gripped 500 18" Cruiser, and this new Aftershock semiauto are the perfect length for what I want out of them.

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                Stuff like the Serbu and Wilson Witness are meant for edc.

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