does anyone know how to pin the benelli M4 skeletonized stock?

[xxG3xx]

i really want a benelli with this stock but im not sure how to pin it....pics would help or a link

thanks

[ajl2121]

I thought that collapsable stock was only for LE. I may be incorrect. I looked at the m4 a few days ago on the web, and I know one of the optional stocks is not legal for civilian use (maybe it was the collapsable skeletonized one). I would definately invest in that $1600 semi-auto shotgun if it had at more than a 4+1 capacity. Anyone know of a semi-auto shotgun that is legal in CA that holds at least a 7+1?

[TonyM]

Yes, looks like it's LEO only now.

http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/m4.tpl

Previously they were available, but I believe (not sure) this may be a 922 issue.

There was a fixed Skeleton stock for the M4 and M1014 before, but CA called it a banned feature as it still rotated and moved something like 1/8th of an inch.

No biggy, after holding one and shooting one, I decided I liked the standard Pistol Grip stock better and got an M1014 with that stock instead. It's really much nicer weighted.

[ar15barrels]

Anyone know of a semi-auto shotgun that is legal in CA that holds at least a 7+1?

Benelli M2.

[cseabass]

drill a hole through the button, and put a roll-pin through it...

[adamsreeftank]

If you look at how the stock works, it will not be hard to pin it. The problem is the legality of having a semi auto shotgun with an adjustable stock before you modify it.

[xxG3xx]

i think i might just get a Remington 870 and do something like this to it...





i would want a surefire grip and maybe a cmore on it....and its already CA legal as is so i wouldn't have a problem with the law so i think this would be my best bet.

[ar15barrels]

If you look at how the stock works, it will not be hard to pin it. The problem is the legality of having a semi auto shotgun with an adjustable stock before you modify it.

Pin the stock before you install it.
There's no constructive possession issues here.

[peepshowal]

There was a fixed Skeleton stock for the M4 and M1014 before, but CA called it a banned feature as it still rotated and moved something like 1/8th of an inch.

I have heard this before also, but have not been able to find anything on the DOJ website.
Is there any opinion letter or actual regulation that confirms this?
Is this only true for versions that did not have the fixed skeletonized stock configuration from the factory (so it could not be added later)?
Does anyone know?
Thanks

[allenst65]

Pin the stock before you install it.

This is not possible with the design. The pistol grip element slips onto the fixed recoil spring tube and is screwed in place first, followed by the separate sliding stock portion which is slipped on and twisted in place last.

[allenst65]

There was a fixed Skeleton stock for the M4 and M1014 before, but CA called it a banned feature as it still rotated and moved something like 1/8th of an inch.

If this were the case, then even the fixed M4 stock would be banned since it has to be slid some 8-9" onto the recoil spring tube and rotated (screwed) into place.

The stock issue only comes into play on the later 11707 model M4s which are commercially offered with the milled recoil spring tube. The milled flat along the tube allows the skeletonized stock to fully collapse in violation of CA law.

The earlier 11703 and commemerative M1014s did not have the milled flat, thus while the skeletonized stock could be installed and locked in the full out position, it could not collapse in any sense to make it a telescoping stock.

I have heard this before also, but have not been able to find anything on the DOJ website. Is there any opinion letter or actual regulation that confirms this?

More internet lore which won't be documented on the CA DOJ site. This bit likely stems from a Benelli memo that was posted on the Turners website many years ago, wherein Benelli voluntarily ceased sales of the M1014 to CA due to DOJ's 'concerns'. Yet another example of Benelli caving to the man.


Archived Turners March 2004 Letter

[ar15barrels]

This is not possible with the design. The pistol grip element slips onto the fixed recoil spring tube and is screwed in place first, followed by the separate sliding stock portion which is slipped on and twisted in place last.

Do the work out-of-state and then bring it back in when you have it in a non-AW configuration.