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  • hambsc
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 36

    Mossberg 590A1 weight issue

    Hey everyone!

    I love my 590A1, but it becomes a bit tiring to hold up after a while due to it's natural weight. I'm going to add a heat shield soon, making it even heavier.

    My question is, is there a lighter aftermarket stock available for it that would negate the future heat shield weight I'm going to add? I'd want to steer away from tactical stocks because I'd like to keep it as close to original Milspec as possible. I'd be open to shorter stocks as well.

    My apologies for not doing advance internet research first, I figured you more experienced guys out there might have a quick answer!

    Much thanks.
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    BamBam-31
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Dec 2005
    • 5318

    A lighter buttstock probably wont make that much of a difference. Much of the fatigue comes from the 590A1 having a heavy barrel (making it nose-heavy). Adding a heat shield will make that even worse.
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    • #3
      23 Blast
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 3754

      Originally posted by BamBam-31
      A lighter buttstock probably wont make that much of a difference. Much of the fatigue comes from the 590A1 having a heavy barrel (making it nose-heavy). Adding a heat shield will make that even worse.
      Right - also, paradoxically, even if you do put that lighter buttstock on, which reduces the overall total weight, the weight distribution would make the gun even heavier in the nose, making it FEEL heavier. YMMV.
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      • #4
        BamBam-31
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Dec 2005
        • 5318

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          NoNOS67
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 2161

          Exactly!

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          • #6
            Arson
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 1818

            I you can't pick up and hold a shotgun, go to the gym and workout. I own a 590A1 and thought about the weight with 13 shells. 8+1(+4 in the stock) and was amazed at how light it actually is.
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            • #7
              Databyter
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 1100

              Originally posted by hambsc
              Hey everyone!

              I love my 590A1, but it becomes a bit tiring to hold up after a while due to it's natural weight. I'm going to add a heat shield soon, making it even heavier.

              My question is, is there a lighter aftermarket stock available for it that would negate the future heat shield weight I'm going to add? I'd want to steer away from tactical stocks because I'd like to keep it as close to original Milspec as possible. I'd be open to shorter stocks as well.

              My apologies for not doing advance internet research first, I figured you more experienced guys out there might have a quick answer!

              Much thanks.
              I have done extensive shooting with mine already IN the desert and have never had it get too hot to handle.

              What purpose would the heat shield serve if you are concerned with weight?

              The heavier barrel is already more protected and a better heat sink simply by virtue of it's greater thickness.

              Personally I was glad it was heavy because I shoot heavy loads with it and discovered that I could not add a better recoil pad to the speedfeed stock without modifying the capacity of it (Although I figured out a way to get around it, it is not really necessary, the weight taking most of the recoil).

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              • #8
                vf111
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 2717

                Originally posted by Databyter

                What purpose would the heat shield serve if you are concerned with weight?
                Heat shields look bad-a**

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                • #9
                  hambsc
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 36

                  I can pick up and hold a shotgun just fine, but a 590A1 after 50 rounds straight is an upper-body workout for anyone IMO.

                  BamBam 31, 23Blast, thanks! You both gave me some some good stuff to think about.

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                  • #10
                    shellslinger
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 930

                    Are you over-extending your support arm? I used to do that, but now I've moved my support arm a little further back close to me and the weight issue seems to have gone away.
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                    • #11
                      mmrx2
                      Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 386

                      590s are light weight compared to other shotguns. (Benelli m4)

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                      • #12
                        Nightron
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 69

                        Originally posted by Arson
                        I you can't pick up and hold a shotgun, go to the gym and workout. I own a 590A1 and thought about the weight with 13 shells. 8+1(+4 in the stock) and was amazed at how light it actually is.
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                        To the OP, glad you asked that question. I was interested in the 590A1 for its beefier character. But I didn't buy one 'cause I couldn't find the specific model (w/ bead sights, etc) readily available. I ultimately went with Benelli basic Tactical and now find I am California-burdened with the imported-shotgun constraints. I cannot get within 100 feet of a magazine extension. (oh wait, that's not exactly the enacted law... maybe it's the one being drafted ). So, many of the Mossies or Rem's make a good choice.

                        One solution to the muscle strain is to use the longest shells the Moss will accept... then tired arms won't be the primary symptom.

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                        • #13
                          TKM
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                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 10657

                          Originally posted by hambsc
                          I can pick up and hold a shotgun just fine, but a 590A1 after 50 rounds straight is an upper-body workout for anyone IMO.

                          BamBam 31, 23Blast, thanks! You both gave me some some good stuff to think about.
                          Some of us can fire AR50s standing up.

                          Maybe a sandwich and some pushups would help.
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                          • #14
                            alfred1222
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 7331

                            Originally posted by hambsc
                            I can pick up and hold a shotgun just fine, but a 590A1 after 50 rounds straight is an upper-body workout for anyone IMO.

                            BamBam 31, 23Blast, thanks! You both gave me some some good stuff to think about.
                            I dont agree. ive been out shooting many different models of shotguns for a long time, and even after a couple hundred rounds out of a remington 870, which weighs the same as a stock 590A1, the only thing that really bothers me is my shoulder, and even that is negligible. it could be your stance, or how long you keep the gun shouldered in between shots.

                            Originally posted by TKM
                            Some of us can fire AR50s standing up.

                            Maybe a sandwich and some pushups would help.
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                            • #15
                              Rob454
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 11254

                              Adding a lighter stock will just make the shotgun more front heavy and will throw off the balance even more.
                              If its really a problem go buy the barrel and mag tube from a 500 persuader. A lot lighter and with a Wolf spring you can make it a 8+1 not losing any capacity.
                              or you can go and start pumpin the weights. be careful because from what i understand some heat shields will not fit right on the 590s. For the most part heat shields are a waste of money IMO.

                              As for the shooting I had the same problem. After 50-80 rounds I was sore. i took a shotgun class on how to CORRECTLY shoot a shotgun and now I can pump out quite a bit of slug buck and bird before I get tired. Spend the money on a hooting class rather than add on crap. your 590 is already a good gun. Don't screw it up by adding a bunch of useless s*8t you will end up selling here for 1/2 the original price you paid.
                              Last edited by Rob454; 03-22-2012, 7:44 PM.

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